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1 posted on 07/09/2007 11:32:36 AM PDT by NYer
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Speaking of communion, how do you suppose the Holy Eucharist will be distributed at Tridentine masses said in Catholic Churches designed and/or renovated post Vatican Council II, where the altar rails were removed?


2 posted on 07/09/2007 11:34:32 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Il Giornale: all sacraments, not just Mass (Motu Proprio)

Check out #14 on the list!

26 posted on 07/09/2007 4:27:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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**How do we deal with the Holy Friday prayer for the Jews?

“The authorized Missal is that of 1962, promulgated by John XXIII, in which the expression ‘perfidis iudaeis’ and ‘iudaica perfidia’ had already been removed.”88

Why” All it does is pray FOR them, nothing agsist them at all. I will try to find it. Should be here somewhere.


27 posted on 07/09/2007 4:29:56 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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I think I would like to attend a licit Tridentine rite mass. The first problem I foresee is certain bishops and/or whomever will try to sabotage it, by spin, obfuscation, "not enough people want it to justify having it", keeping it in the outback parishes, inconvenient times, or blatantly countermanding the pope's permission, etc. It was supposed to be liberally offered to those who wanted it. Or was that the Latin version of novus ordo? The way I understand it, there is a difference.

I liked the new mass, even some of the music so many don't, not knowing differently, but things just got too confusing to the point where I was seriously wondering if I should follow blatantly disobedient priests. That is less likely to happen with a licit Tridentine mass, even if it takes longer lol.

I seriously wonder if more graces can be obtained in a licit Tridentine mass where they don't play and experiment with the liturgy. Guess there's only one way to find out. Obedience *is* stressed throughout scriptures. A little latitude is sometimes necessary, Jesus had some words about the "letter of the law" and what is in peoples' hearts.

The people who will be drawn to it, I hope would be liberal in love, compassion, forgiveness and nonjudgmental like some I knew when I was attending Novus Ordo. I don't think I would have to deal with charismania again which would be a huge relief as well as some other distressing, questionable practices. And I don't think I'm *that* rigid because, depending on conditions which can't always be foreseen, sometimes a little flexibility is necessary and excusable by me.

I will pray for guidance about it.

44 posted on 07/09/2007 6:01:03 PM PDT by Aliska
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