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To: Ping-Pong
Even though Levi and Joseph are included in the list of twelve in Rev 7, one of the half-tribes of Joseph is still there - Manasseh, but not Ephraim.

Essentially.....Ephraim is Joseph.....along with Manasseh so this is a moot point.

Levi was removed from many lists in the Old Testament as they were the Priests....and as such, lived among the other tribes performing their duties locally. They were not given land in the Kingdom as they had no need for it. Thus they were not listed....except for genealogies, but they are listed among the 144,000 who are martyred during The Great tribulation [Revelation 7:14].

813 posted on 11/08/2007 6:09:17 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618; DouglasKC
Hello to both of you. I have another question I hope you can help me with. It is about the Son of Perdition.

On another site, someone is building a scenario of end time events based on belief that the son of peridition is Judas. I won't go into all of that but I understand from scripture that there is only one called that and that is Satan himself.

He bases his belief on Judas because of:

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Thy name: those that Thou gavest Me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

He assumes this is in reference to the disciples and Judas was the one lost....hence, the son of perdition. I quoted some scipture that I believe verifies Satan as that entity but so far he isn't convinced.

So...I have come to you. Am I wrong? What do you believe? Who is the son of perdition...Satan or Judas?

.....Ping

814 posted on 12/09/2007 11:17:36 AM PST by Ping-Pong
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