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Hello to both of you. I have another question I hope you can help me with. It is about the Son of Perdition.

On another site, someone is building a scenario of end time events based on belief that the son of peridition is Judas. I won't go into all of that but I understand from scripture that there is only one called that and that is Satan himself.

He bases his belief on Judas because of:

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Thy name: those that Thou gavest Me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

He assumes this is in reference to the disciples and Judas was the one lost....hence, the son of perdition. I quoted some scipture that I believe verifies Satan as that entity but so far he isn't convinced.

So...I have come to you. Am I wrong? What do you believe? Who is the son of perdition...Satan or Judas?

.....Ping

He's partially right. The son of "perdition" spoken of here probably is Judas:

Joh 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

BUT, the other son of "perdition" spoken of here is most likely the false prophet:

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

This can't be Judas because of the next verse:

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Judas never did any of these things. I put the word "perdition" in quotes because the greek word it's translated from is translated a number of different ways.

apōleia

Total KJV Occurrences: 21

perdition, (8) Joh_17:12, Phi_1:28, 2Th_2:3, 1Ti_6:9, Heb_10:39, 2Pe_3:7, Rev_17:8, Rev_17:11

destruction, (5) Mat_7:13, Rom_9:22, Phi_3:19, 2Pe_2:1, 2Pe_3:16

waste, (2) Mat_26:8, Mar_14:4

damnable, (1) 2Pe_2:1

damnation, (1) 2Pe_2:3

die, (1) Act_25:16

perish, (1)Act_8:20

pernicious, (1) 2Pe_2:2

ways, (1)2Pe_2:2

That's just to illustrate that the word "perdition" shouldn't be the criteria for determining who it is.

The church I attend with has put out a pretty good study paper on the "son of perdition", the "man of sin". It's available at 2 Thessolonians and The Man of Sin

In short, it's not Satan or Judas in this verse, but is the false prophet.