[P-Marlowe]

I believe that rapture is the lie that is causing the "strong delusion" and God sends it to test us.

Unless you are willing to state that every Christian who believes in the rapture has "pleasure in unrighteousness," then the lie in II Thess. 2:10 has NOTHING to do with belief in the Rapture.

Most people, if not all, who have pleasure in unrighteousness, (i.e., unrepentant sinners who reject Christ) mock the idea of a Rapture and make fun of those who believe in the Rapture of the Church. They make fun of most Christians, no doubt, but they take exquisite pleasure in mocking those who believe that someday the Church will be raptured to heaven.

So don't go blaming God for sending a delusion go guys like John MacArthur and Chuck Smith unless you are willing to claim that both of them have pleasure in unrighteousness.

/rant

[Ping-Pong]

"I believe that rapture is the lie that is causing the "strong delusion" and God sends it to test us."....One other thing. If God is sending someone a "strong delusion" it is not as a test, it is as a judgment. God does not send a strong delusion so that they will believe a lie unless that person has already totally rejected the truth.

If the word "judgment" is used instead of "test" what are you being judged on in this particular instance? If God said that He would send strong delusion so they should believe a lie then what lie is it? Those that "have already totally rejected the truth" already belong to Satan. He wants Christians and will lie to get them.

Unless you are willing to state that every Christian who believes in the rapture has "pleasure in unrighteousness," then the lie in II Thess. 2:10 has NOTHING to do with belief in the Rapture.

I am not willing to say that. I am willing to say they don't know it is a lie. They believe it with every fiber of their being. God tells us that those that believe the lie have pleasure in it.

Most people, if not all, who have pleasure in unrighteousness, (i.e., unrepentant sinners who reject Christ) mock the idea of a Rapture and make fun of those who believe in the Rapture of the Church. They make fun of most Christians, no doubt, but they take exquisite pleasure in mocking those who believe that someday the Church will be raptured to heaven.

I understand your feelings P-Marlowe but I am not one of them. I do not mock or make fun of those that believe in rapture. I do try to tell them of my concerns.

So don't go blaming God for sending a delusion

I don't blame Him at all, those are His Words, He warns us.