Many scholars believe that indeed you became a member of congregation of the Lord by marrying an Israelite and this is what is being referred to.
Now, since the word Moabite is used, it is clear that it was the men who were the ones forbidden to enter into the Congregation, not the women.
The word "Moabite" is an English translation of a word that is translated "Moab" once, "Moabite" 6 times, "Moabites" 3 times and, Moabitess 6 times. It does not designate a sex in and of itself.
Your supposition that it refers only to men is due to two things:
1. You only believe that one, particular, English translation of scripture is valid and you don't recognize hebrew, chaldee or any other language as valid.
2. You believe that Ruth was a racial Moabite.
God didn't forbid Egyptians. Just the opposite: Deu 23:7 Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. First, that is not dealing with marriage, now is it? It is dealing with hospitality.
Oh?
Deu 23:7 Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.
Deu 23:8 The children that are begotten of them shall enter into the congregation of the LORD in their third generation.
That's pretty hospitable of them to have sex, have children, but not get married.
Actually, you yourself admitted to my comment regarding foreign women and their false gods' maybe so, amd it so to anyone who can read either English or Hebrew.
Maybe so applies to SOME foreign women. But has been painstakingly pointed out in scripture, by the mouth of the Lord himself, this wasn't the stated reason with Moabites.
No matter how much you try and wiggle around it, it's still there:
Deu 23:3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD forever:
Deu 23:4 Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.
God stated his reason. Don't substitute your own.
LOL! Great post, Douglas.
[ See, your reading ability is poor. That passage refer to the forbidding of the entrance of the Moabites into the Congregation of the Lord, not the marriage of them.]
Many scholars believe that indeed you became a member of congregation of the Lord by marrying an Israelite and this is what is being referred to.
Is that what the passage says?
It doesn't say a word about marriage!
And many scholars also say that the passage refers only to men!
You will note that vs.1-2 refer to someone having their stones and privy members cut off' and a 'bastard' Clearly, all references to men.
[ Now, since the word Moabite is used, it is clear that it was the men who were the ones forbidden to enter into the Congregation, not the women. ]
The word "Moabite" is an English translation of a word that is translated "Moab" once, "Moabite" 6 times, "Moabites" 3 times and, Moabitess 6 times. It does not designate a sex in and of itself.
Ofcourse it does!
Based on the context as noted above in vs.1-2!.
And many scholars think exactly that, that it only referred to the men.
Your supposition that it refers only to men is due to two things: 1. You only believe that one, particular, English translation of scripture is valid and you don't recognize hebrew, chaldee or any other language as valid. 2. You believe that Ruth was a racial Moabite.
1. Yes, I believe there is only one valid English translation, the King James, but that doesn't change anything since every translation translated the word 'Moabite'
2. Nothing in any of those foreign languages changes the fact that the context is referring to men.
3. You only reject the truth of that fact, because you don't want to believe that Ruth was, in fact, what the Bible says she was, a woman from the people of Moab.
God didn't forbid Egyptians. Just the opposite: Deu 23:7 Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.
[ First, that is not dealing with marriage, now is it? It is dealing with hospitality. ]
Oh? Deu 23:7 Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. Deu 23:8 The children that are begotten of them shall enter into the congregation of the LORD in their third generation. That's pretty hospitable of them to have sex, have children, but not get married.
Where does it say anything about Israelites marrying with Egytians and Edomites? It just means that Egyptian and Edomite children are allowed the same rights of the Israelites in the 3rd generation.
It doesn't say a word about intermarriage!
All of you B.I. guys must have the same inability to read what is actually there, and read into it, something that isn't.
[ Actually, you yourself admitted to my comment regarding foreign women and their false gods' maybe so, amd it so to anyone who can read either English or Hebrew. ]
Maybe so applies to SOME foreign women. But has been painstakingly pointed out in scripture, by the mouth of the Lord himself, this wasn't the stated reason with Moabites.
It applies to all of those women listed in Ezra 9:1, which included the Moabite women.
The forbidding of foreign women was based on their clinging to their false Gods.
Ruth gave up hers, so she could marry Boaz and did.
So, there was nothing 'painsakingly pointed out by the Lord' forbidding marriage to a Moabitess, when she had converted to the Israelite faith.
That view only comes from your own flawed interpretation of scripture which is due to poor reading skills and a dishonest heart.
No matter how much you try and wiggle around it, it's still there: Deu 23:3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD forever: Deu 23:4 Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee. God stated his reason. Don't substitute your own.
And once again that passage doesn't refer to the Moabite women.
And you have not addressed the passage in Ezra 9:1 where Egyptian women are mentioned as well as Moabite ones.
1 Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.
So, the basis of rejection of those women as wives was their idol worship.
Yet, Joseph married an Egyptian woman.
So, it is you are rejecting the word of God by placing your own spin on the Book of Ruth.
Boaz could marry a Moabitess because she had rejected her own pagan gods and accepted the true God of Israel.
Your appeal to Deut.23:3-4 doesn't change that fact, since it doesn't refer to women, as the context proves from verses 1-2.
So, once again, the attempts by the B.I. sect, to twist the clear words of God, fail.
God stated His reason for forbidding the Moabite men from entering the congregation.
Don't substitute your own.
And don't make up yours.