Are we still on this? The Jews, to whom Peter was talking, was right there in front of him. He refereed to Israel. I can't believe you parse the passage this way. You would have to be so mired in your own prior belief you can't read clearly.
But, the real point is, that you try to use this passage as some evidence that Israel has merged with Judah, against Hosea, and that passage clearly and without doubt can be seen legitimately another way. Therefore, it is no evidence at all. Do you understand the meaning of this fact to the support of your belief?
And where does it state that they would forget who they were as part of the curse on them-no where! The curse is that they would cease to be a Kingdom, not a people. The curse is on them as a people and it will continue until the Millennnial reign when all 12 tribes are reinstated and receive their land inhertances as stated very clearly in Ezek.48.
You yourself in a prior post, posted a passage from the Old Testament, using forgetfulness as God's judgment on them.
If you cease to be identified with a group (kingdom) for 6 centuries, you have forgotten who you were, as God intended. Later God will reunite them, after His purposes have been fulfilled.
But that "curse" was not on all 12 tribes. Judah clearly remembers.
Ezekiel has nothing to do with any notion of any "millennium" so named by those who impose their pre concepts on Revelation symbolism. If you think it does, post the specific passage(s) and explain them.
No, that is not the simplest explanation, nor is it consistent with prophecy and God's promises, since there is no history of it, nor is it in prophecy that those tribes would forget who they were!
I have already shown you the history. And I have shown you where you did not understand the the term in the parts of history you posted. For Hosea to reunite the two Houses, under one head they pick, which has not happened yet, and the consensus being that Israel vanished from history, how can you reach any other conclusion, except from a prior accepted belief system seeking to impose itself on the facts?
You belong to a sacred cow. I seek to make burgers out of it.
Dumbest thing I every heard.
Actually, I'd say basing your doctrine on a consensus contrary to evidence and without clear evidence for it is pretty dumb.
Well, doesn't he say that the blacks have forgotten their heritage as well?
Are you seriously saying the two are related?
That view that an entire people have forgotten who they are is for kooks and you British Israelite guys fit right in there with them.
You doubt the power of God to follow through with His judgments?
That was because they weren't a kingdom in Italy or Palestine at the time of the Roman Empire. They were under the authority of Rome, not a Kingdom. And a Kingdom doesn't have to be a particular size. A kingdom can be quite small.
You missed the point. A kingdom is the people. "Kingdom" is just a name describing a group of people. The people and the kingdom are one. You are trying to impute meaning to an abstract term. Throughout the scriptures God cares about people, and about groups like a "kingdom" only that it is a name meaning the people.
Those were the tribes moved by Assyria. There is no record of those tribes moving anywhere else-now is there?. So stop repeating things that has nothing to do with proving your theory. We know that the 10 tribes were dispersed to the Assyrian empire that is in the records. What is not in the records is that those same tribes went anywhere. That is what you have to show to prove your thesis. Not that they were in Northern Assyria.
There are numerous plates of inscriptions available that show people dressed in western Semite garb. There are numerous letters to the Assyrian king that mention Israelites being, called "Gamerians", traced back to "Khumri (Omri).
These letters were assembled by R.F Harper in 1930 and were translated by Leroy Waterman and published by the University of Michigan.
There are missives from Assyrian outposts near when the Median and Israelite tribes were placed, those that had not already moved to other places, after being impressed into tilling the land for tribute to the king, showing clear Israelite priestly clothing, being sighted moving north through what is now Turkey.
There are translated records of Israelite communities having trouble with Assyrian tax collectors, and prevailing because of numbers.
Why have you not been exposed to any of this?
I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove that they did. Since there is no records of any such movement, it is an historical myth. Your logic is as bad as your historical knowledge. History is about showing facts, which you cannot do, not putting forth conjecture and then asking me to prove them wrong. I can't prove that a UFO didn't move them either.
I have presented evidence. You seem to forget we are talking about 6 centuries worth of history between the fall of Assyria and Jewish Palestine.
The greatest part of the remaining tribes escaped from the Assyrian rule after the fall. Many went north. Many stayed in the land and were called other names.
Most had probably forgotten all relationship with Judah by then, except through tales. We are talking about a lot time here.
The notion of the vast number of Israelites merging with Judah appears false on its face, and appears to be the realm of those who haven't' researched further into the matter. All this makes up a prima facie conclusion.
The only way to challenge a prima facie conclusion is with greater facts, which you have not provided.
Yes, that is true. And those of the line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (known today as Jews) would be the heirs to the Covenant. Are there individuals who do not know they have Jewish blood, yes I am sure there are. But an entire group of 10 tribes didn't stop knowing who they were and become a different race of people.
You still are using a preconception of a consensus opinion that all were/are Jews. After all these centuries, the world can reasonably be said to be virtually covered with the seed of Abraham, and you say it is all comprehended in about 5 million or so Jews?
The word "Jew" is a mistranslation of the word "loudaious" and is to mean specifically the remnant of Judah, and would never have been applied to the tribes of Israel except the House of Judah, Judah and Benjamin.
Even if the tribes merged with Judah, Judah would not have allowed them to be called Jews. Jews have been very proud and territorial of their royal patent.
Hosea will be fulfilled after the Millennial reign. There is still a Tribulation ahead in which most of mankind is going to be wiped out, including 3/4 of the seed of Abraham. So, your attempts to deal with the population issue in Hosea are based on your own poor theology which doesn't know that God is going to repopulate Israel with the 12 tribes after most are destroyed, as stated very clearly in Matt.24 and Zech.13
We already discussed this. You have provided no link between Hosea and what you call the Millennium. You don't even know how the millennium will come about applied in real world physical existence, the nature of it applied there to or any connection of ancient peoples and prophecies related to that construct from complete symbolism.
I'll bet you believe in a "rapture" so God's chullins will be able to avoid pain in their bodies, too. And you call mine "bad theology". 