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To: P-Marlowe
I didn't thank you for taking the time with this post in my other reply. Please accept my apologies.

It's just that I don't agree with the idea of rapture and truly believe it to be dangerous. It seems to have a very strong hold on many wonderful Christians today, including many in my family.

Please allow me to tell you, as I tell them, - If we are all raptured away then there is no problem but if someone comes, claiming to be Christ saying let's gather together so he can rapture you away - Do Not Go.

The one that comes first is Satan, pretending to be Christ, as I believe the Bible tells us. When the true Christ arrives, at the seventh and last trump, we are all changed. Wait for that and do not be taken.

2Thess.2:8. And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
9.Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10.And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved.
11.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12.That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I believe that rapture is the lie that is causing the "strong delusion" and God sends it to test us.

......Ping

65 posted on 07/08/2007 4:02:29 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong
- If we are all raptured away then there is no problem but if someone comes, claiming to be Christ saying let's gather together so he can rapture you away - Do Not Go.

Have no fear...Satan can't 'Rapture' anyone...When God says 'Come up Hither', you are already past Jupiter and the Constellations and you are headed North faster than the speed of light...Remember, in the twinkling of an eye...

You can wave at the Big Dipper as you go by...

When you bought the salvation ticket, the Rapture was included at no charge...It's a package deal...And no refunds...

Jesus (nor Satan) is going to email you and ask if you are ready to go...Even if you don't believe in it, YOU'RE GOIN'...Praise God...

71 posted on 07/08/2007 4:16:42 PM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: Ping-Pong; Iscool; CA Conservative; labette; blue-duncan
I believe that rapture is the lie that is causing the "strong delusion" and God sends it to test us.

Unless you are willing to state that every Christian who believes in the rapture has "pleasure in unrighteousness," then the lie in II Thess. 2:10 has NOTHING to do with belief in the Rapture.

Most people, if not all, who have pleasure in unrighteousness, (i.e., unrepentant sinners who reject Christ) mock the idea of a Rapture and make fun of those who believe in the Rapture of the Church. They make fun of most Christians, no doubt, but they take exquisite pleasure in mocking those who believe that someday the Church will be raptured to heaven.

So don't go blaming God for sending a delusion go guys like John MacArthur and Chuck Smith unless you are willing to claim that both of them have pleasure in unrighteousness.

/rant

77 posted on 07/08/2007 6:37:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Ping-Pong
I believe that rapture is the lie that is causing the "strong delusion" and God sends it to test us.

One other thing. If God is sending someone a "strong delusion" it is not as a test, it is as a judgment. God does not send a strong delusion so that they will believe a lie unless that person has already totally rejected the truth.

78 posted on 07/08/2007 6:42:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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