Bingo! Correct me if I haven't made this very clear "Ping Pong",.....but isn't this what I have been saying all along? I believe I have made countless statements that the tribes that emigrated to Judah (Benjamin and Levi) as well as the individual folks from the other tribes all became known as Jews. They had been...and still were, Israelites!
You know.....back in post #180, I said I was not a British Israelite....and I believe this post was also directed to you, "FTD". Why do you continue to cast aspersions about this?
The name of Jew and Israelite became synonymous terms from about the time of the Captivity.
I think one of the difficult things people come up against.... in this study of the tribes, is understanding there were two captivities....Assyrian (721 B.C.) and Babylonian (595 B.C.) It was after the Babylonian captivity that the Books of The Kings and The Chronicles were written showing the separation of the two Kingdoms and the ensuing difficulties that developed. This is indeed when the Old Testament writers began calling the Southern Kingdom Jewish. They were already known as Israelites (Judah was a son of Israel).
Anglo-Israelism teaches that members of the Ten Tribes are never called Jews, and that Jews are not Israelites
I have never said that the Jews were not of Israel...in fact I believe I have been adamant in saying they were. The Holy Scriptures, although....do not ever call the tribes of the north Jews.
In the Book of Ezra this remnant is only called eight times by the name Jews, and no less than forty times by the name Israel. In the Book of Nehemiah they are called Jews eleven times, and Israel twenty-two times.
There is no problem calling this remnant from Babylon....Israelites or Israel. They are both. I have never said they were not!
I think some folks have a tendency to fly off the handle on this issue....not really understanding the Biblical history of it all. They, for some reason, become defensive when you quote scripture that shows the Northern Kingdom to not be Jewish....and thinking that maybe they are dealing with an antisemitic person. Nothing could be further than the truth. All Israel will be saved....and this includes the Jews! [Romans 11:26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob.
Zech 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
So, every tribe is represented under the title of 'Jew'.
And if you think that the term Israelite and Jew are used interchangably for any of the members of the 12 tribes, and all 12 tribes are present as Jews, then we are not in any disagreement.
When Christ says He is King of the Jews, He is King over all 12 tribes of the line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, which still exist as Jews.
But to think this is some great historical biblical discovery is quite funny.
The members of the 10 tribes were either absorbed into the nations around them (being lost) or survived by remaining with Judea.
Everyone knows that.
And the reason I keep associating you with the British Israelites is because you keep using their same goofy arguments.
And so who do you think is Israel?
If you agree that the among the Jews there are all of the 12 tribes, then who do you think is 'Israel'?
Stop the doubletalking.
It sure does.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
The house of Israel refers to the northern tribes as the Jews who killed the Lord (1Thess.2:14), along with the house of Judea.
My initial impression of you was correct.
You hold to more heresies then I can count!
Correct me if I am wrong, but you hold to soul sleep, saturday observance, reject the Trinty, hold to festival observance, dietary rules, British-Israelism (make a vieled reference to the United States, instead of the present state of Israel being the 'real' Israelites.)
You seem to believe that the three races did not come from Noah and his sons.
Christ did not go into Abrahams bosom.
I am sure that the list doesn't end there.
And you support this with a constant rewriting of scriptures by appealing to any Hebrew or Greek source that will support your own interpetation.
You are a modern day Origen!