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III. The name of “Jew” and “Israelite” became synonymous terms from about the time of the Captivity. It is one of the absurd fallacies of Anglo-Israelism to presuppose that the term “Jew” stands for a bodily descendant of “Judah.” It stands for all those from among the sons of Jacob who acknowledged themselves, or were considered, subjects of the theocratic kingdom of Judah, which they expected to be established by the promised “Son of David “—the Lion of the tribe of Judah—whose reign is to extend not only over “all the tribes of the land,” but also “from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.”

“That the name ‘Jew,’ writes a Continental Bible scholar, “became general for all Israelites who were anxious to preserve their theocratic nationality, was the more natural, since the political independence of the Ten Tribes was destroyed.” Yes, and without any hope of a restoration to a separate national existence. What hopes and promises they had were, as we have seen, linked with the Kingdom of Judah and the House of David.

Anglo-Israelism teaches that members of the Ten Tribes are never called “Jews,” and that “Jews “are not “Israelites”; but both assertions are false. Who were they that came back to the land after the “Babylonian” exile? Anglo-Israelites say they were only the exiles from the southern kingdom of Judah, and call them “Jews.” I have already shown this to be a fallacy, but I might add the significant fact that in the Book of Ezra this remnant is only called eight times by the name “Jews,” and no less than forty times by the name “Israel.” In the Book of Nehemiah they are called “Jews” eleven times, and “Israel” twenty-two times. As to those who remained behind in the one hundred and twenty-seven provinces of the Persian Empire, which included all the territories of ancient Assyria, Anglo-Israelites would say they were of the kingdom of “Israel”; but in the Book of Esther, where we get a vivid glimpse of them at a period subsequent to the partial restoration under Zerubbabel and Joshua, they are called forty-five times by the name Jews,” and not once by the name “Israel” !

In the New Testament the same people who are called “Jews” one hundred and seventy-four times are also called “Israel” no fewer than seventy-five times. Anglo-Israelism asserts that a “Jew” ‘is only a descendant of Judah, and is not an “Israelite”; but Paul says more than once: “I am a man which am a Jew.” Yet he says: “For I also am an Israelite.” “Are they Israelites ? so am I” (Acts 21:39; 22:3 Rom. 11:1; 2 Cor. 11: 22; Phil. 3:5).

Our Lord ‘was of the House of David, and of the tribe of Judah after the flesh—”a Jew”; yet it says that it is of “Israel” that He came, who is “over all, God blessed for ever” (Rom. 9:4, 5). Devout Anna was a “Jewess” in Jerusalem, yet she was “of the tribe of Aser.” But enough on this point.

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231 posted on 07/16/2007 2:34:44 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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The name of “Jew” and “Israelite” became synonymous terms from about the time of the Captivity. It is one of the absurd fallacies of Anglo-Israelism to presuppose that the term “Jew” stands for a bodily descendant of “Judah.” It stands for all those from among the sons of Jacob who acknowledged themselves, or were considered, subjects of the theocratic kingdom of Judah, which they expected to be established by the promised “Son of David “—the Lion of the tribe of Judah—whose reign is to extend not only over “all the tribes of the land,” but also “from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.”

Bingo! Correct me if I haven't made this very clear "Ping Pong",.....but isn't this what I have been saying all along? I believe I have made countless statements that the tribes that emigrated to Judah (Benjamin and Levi) as well as the individual folks from the other tribes all became known as Jews. They had been...and still were, Israelites!

You know.....back in post #180, I said I was not a British Israelite....and I believe this post was also directed to you, "FTD". Why do you continue to cast aspersions about this?

The name of “Jew” and “Israelite” became synonymous terms from about the time of the Captivity.

I think one of the difficult things people come up against.... in this study of the tribes, is understanding there were two captivities....Assyrian (721 B.C.) and Babylonian (595 B.C.) It was after the Babylonian captivity that the Books of The Kings and The Chronicles were written showing the separation of the two Kingdoms and the ensuing difficulties that developed. This is indeed when the Old Testament writers began calling the Southern Kingdom Jewish. They were already known as Israelites (Judah was a son of Israel).

Anglo-Israelism teaches that members of the Ten Tribes are never called “Jews,” and that “Jews “are not “Israelites”

I have never said that the Jews were not of Israel...in fact I believe I have been adamant in saying they were. The Holy Scriptures, although....do not ever call the tribes of the north Jews.

In the Book of Ezra this remnant is only called eight times by the name “Jews,” and no less than forty times by the name “Israel.” In the Book of Nehemiah they are called “Jews” eleven times, and “Israel” twenty-two times.

There is no problem calling this remnant from Babylon....Israelites or Israel. They are both. I have never said they were not!

I think some folks have a tendency to fly off the handle on this issue....not really understanding the Biblical history of it all. They, for some reason, become defensive when you quote scripture that shows the Northern Kingdom to not be Jewish....and thinking that maybe they are dealing with an antisemitic person. Nothing could be further than the truth. All Israel will be saved....and this includes the Jews! [Romans 11:26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob.

234 posted on 07/16/2007 3:59:30 PM PDT by Diego1618
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