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To: Ping-Pong
The article you posted is full of hatred and misconceptions. As I said, I will not defend British-Israelism as I haven't studied the subject but I do KNOW that the tribes migrated, as told us by GOD HIMSELF. Where do you think they are now? They are not mixed in with the tribe of Judah as GOD HIMSELF told us they will not be united until the millennium.

They never migrated, they were dispersed.

And not everyone from those tribes were dispersed, but remained in the Southern Kingdom, as the Bible also states.

What you are talking about is mere fantasy, not biblical fact.

Do you think that the United States of America would not be mentioned in the Bible? Do you not feel that it is the most blessed nation, the One Nation Under God, for a reason. Don't you see His hand in it?

Yes, I see God's hand in the United States, but God has used many Gentile nations in the past and they are not mentioned in the Bible either.

All Gentile nations to God are nothing to Him, only the nation of Israel is His chosen people.

The other nations are blessed because of their relationship with it.(Gen.12)

[ The people who are living in Israel today, calling themselves Jews, are actually impostors who mistakenly identify themselves with the Israelites, but are, in fact, descendants of Judah and are not the chosen people of God and are not part of the covenant of God ]

I don't know where the writer of this article got that but it is trash. All of the tribes are God's chosen people, as GOD HIMSELF tells us. Have you ever seen one place, during this discussion, that it was mentioned Judah was not part of the tribes, was not part of the chosen people? Rather, it has been the exact opposite.

What I have seen is that a separation is made between Judah/Benjamin and the other tribes as if those tribes were not Jewish which they are.

[ It provides a convenient foundation for the justification of attacks on the current Jewish people and the anti-Semitism that is found in the world today. By joining themselves to the teaching and belief, people claim that they are not antisemitic because the real Jews are Anglo-Saxons and therefore they, themselves, are the true Semites. Their attacks on the Jewish people of today are, therefore, exposing the fraud and deception that is inherent in the modern Jewish claim that they are Israelites. ]

I think you should be ashamed of yourself for posting this. If you have read anything either Diego or I have posted you know we have never said anything like what, I assume, you are trying to have others believe we mean.

No, the author doesn't claim that every British Israelite is antisemitic, only that it can lead that by assuming that God is now blessing the Gentile (who are the 'real' lost tribes.

As far as the linguistic claims listed, they sound pretty credible to me - don't they to you?

No, they don't.

They are ridiculous.

[ The apologists for the belief twist and misuse historical events in a manner that distort the reality of events and confuse the uninitiated. The words and theories may sound important to those who do not know better, but the reality of what is being said is nonsense. ]

There are false prophets and they do twist, misue and confuse. However, if you read His Word, as He wants us to, He explains it to us. He has taken a lot of space in His Word to explain His chosen people. Instead of studying that you dig up someone who is twisting, misusing and confusing people and decide to post it.

I posted an article explaining what British Israelites teach.

Now there may be differences between particular groups,but in general, there is a view that the 10 tribes are 'lost' and have become some other race.

That is simply nonsense.

223 posted on 07/16/2007 12:21:05 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Diego1618
I'm combining all of your posts, to me, here.

They never migrated, they were dispersed.

This article was originally about the rapture doctrine and has somehow become stuck on the tribes. I personally think you have lost on both counts but would be happen to continue on both subjects.

Yes they were dispersed and then they migrated.

What you are talking about is mere fantasy, not biblical fact.

You have been buried in biblical fact and don't recognize it.

No, the author doesn't claim that every British Israelite is antisemitic, only that it can lead that by assuming that God is now blessing the Gentile (who are the 'real' lost tribes.

I don't agree with what you think the author said.

I posted an article explaining what British Israelites teach.

No, you posted an article that someone who disagrees with them teaches.

Now there may be differences between particular groups,but in general, there is a view that the 10 tribes are 'lost' and have become some other race.....That is simply nonsense.

I NEVER said the 10 lost tribes have become any other race.

They became the three different families because the DNA code was in their genes.

No they didn't. I gave you the answer but you don't see it.

And the Children of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob haven't become anyone else, they are Jews, Israelites, Hebrews, heirs to the Covenant Promises of God.

Yes, you are correct and that is what we have been saying. Some are Jews, all are Israelites - all of the 12 tribes.

Another Temple will be built since the sacrifices will start again (Dan.8:11-12, Mt.24:15, Rev.11:2)

Daniel 8:11 tells us the daily sacrifice will be taken away because when the anti-christ is here most will believe he is Christ, so communion is no longer given to Christ (it's taken away) but given to anti-christ.

Matthew 24:15 tells us that the anti-christ will stand in Jerusalem, in the Holy place, (Dome of the Rock), pretending to be Christ and it is then the end of days.

Revelation 11:2 Here we pick up the subject in vs. 1 where it states the "reed like a rod" was given to the angel. A side note in my Companion Bible states that, "This measuring reed is like a sceptre, and measures for destruction, not for building". So...the temple (their place of worship) will be destroyed.

My belief is that the 3 references you have given are about the end of days and where the anti-christ will be and that is in Jerusalem at their place of worship, which would be the Dome of the Rock. At least, that is what I believe.

"I don't understand why you say that. They are the same 12 named in the Bible.:....Well, then they must still be in existance since they are returned....So, where do you think they are now?

Yes they are still in existence and will be joined with the house of Judah. I believe they are the Christian nations of today (my belief as It isn't written, as far as I know).

All the tribes are represented under the general term 'Jew' as it was used in the New Testament, when Christ was called the King of the Jews.....Do you think He is only King of the Southern tribes!

He is King of all, including King of the Jews and King of Israel.

John 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto Him, "Rabbi, Thou art the Son of God; Thou art the King of Israel."

When was the last time you saw someone live to over 900 years old?

I don't know what that has to do with anything. I do believe people lived to that age but what does living a long time have to do with one man and woman having 3 different races in their sons?

Oh, another run to Strongs!

If you want to understand you should try it.

And what is the 'deep' significance of this 'fact'that you think you have found in the Bible that the Jews and Israelites are two different people.

They are not different people, they are the same family but God separates them as the "house of Judah" and the "house of Israel". Both are God's chosen people.

by the way, you state that you are a Christian. I assume that to mean you believe in the Trinity?

I don't have an official version of the Trinity. I believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I truly have never given that much thought to it, except to find it a confusing concept at times. It is enough for me to know they ARE.

244 posted on 07/17/2007 11:02:12 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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