[DelphiUser]

I know you have a metaphysical feeling that it makes sense to say that you can be born, become a God, and therefore always exist. The only problem is that it is illogical. To be born you need to be in time, not out of it, time exists, therefore there is a before.

So, I was born yesterday (take your cheap shots here!), Today I build a time machine and go back to the Day before Yesterday, did I exist the day before yesterday?

I know you are trying to find a way to say we are wrong that is irrefutable, but this is the wrong tree, temporal mechanics are on my side, it works, try again with something else.

I could even go into Spirits and intelligences which arguably existed before time. I don't even have to go there to support my point.

DU

[Greg F]

God is. The great “I AM.” He was not born in time, then stepped out of time, then stepped back into time. First words of the Bible are “In the beginning God . . .” The multiverse concept makes nature the ultimate creator of God in the form of an uncreated universe, rather than reverse. Prior universes, extending back into infinities of other universes all creating Gods. Mormon theology has no first mover as I have been told by Edward, the chain of universes just extend back infinitely. Any created god is one the gods of wood and stone we are warned against in the Bible. Mormons do not worship God, but worship a god, a creation.

[Elsie]

Did you hear about the haunted liquor store??

It had beer, wine and spirits!