Posted on 07/05/2007 3:00:33 AM PDT by Gamecock
Afterwards, I'll come back here and lie to Spiff, just to see if size really matters. :)
I saw that garbage. And I called it garbage. But there you are again serving up more garbage.
Spiff we don’t know if the Church had it banned although I would not blame the Church if it did, but for now it is hearsay!
It could be a marketing ploy by the anti mormons to get more people to watch the video!
I second that Spiff, she use to skirt around but now she goes for the jugular we could spend a life time cleaning up here mess I know I use to do it here in the old days.
Succintly stated. Saw this summary of Christian beliefs on a Christian college's website:
I. THE SCRIPTURES
We believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are verbally and plenary inspired of God, are inerrant in the original writings, and are the infallible authority in all matters of faith and conduct (II Timothy 3:16).
II. THE GODHEAD
We believe in one God, eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (John 1:1,2). These three are equal in every divine perfection and execute distinct but harmonious offices in the work of creation and redemption (John 15:2).
III. THE FATHER
We believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth, perfect in holiness, infinite in wisdom, measureless in power (Gen. 1:1, Ex. 15:11, Job 12:13, Matthew 19:26). We rejoice that He concerns Himself mercifully in the affairs of men, that He hears and answers prayer (Matthew 6:6), and that He saves from sin and death all who come to Him through Jesus Christ (John 1:12).
IV. THE SON, JESUS CHRIST
We believe in Jesus Christ, the eternal and only begotten Son of God, conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, sinless in His life, making atonement for the sin of the world by His substitutionary death on the cross. We believe in His bodily resurrection, His ascension into heaven, His present high priestly intercession for His people (Hebrews 9:24), and His personal, visible, imminent (Hebrews 9:28), and premillennial return to this earth according to His promise.
V. THE HOLY SPIRIT
We believe in the Holy Spirit, who came forth from God to convince the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment, and to regenerate, sanctify, and comfort those who believe in Jesus Christ (John 16:7,8).
VI. THE SALVATION OF MAN
We believe that man was created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26), that he sinned in Adam, and that all men by nature and by choice are sinners having incurred not only physical death but also that spiritual death which is separation from God (Romans 3:23). We also believe that "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Therefore, those who by faith, apart from human merit, works, or ceremonies, accept Christ as Lord and Saviour are justified on the grounds of His shed blood and become children of God. We believe in the bodily resurrection of the just and the unjust (I Corinthians 15:22, Acts 17:31). The saved will rejoice forever in God's presence and the lost will be forever separated from God in everlasting conscious punishment. We believe that every human being is responsible to God alone in all matters of faith (Jude 24).
VII. THE CHURCH
We believe in the Church — a living, spiritual body of which Christ is the Head and of which all regenerated people are members. We believe that a visible church is a company of believers in Jesus Christ, buried with him in baptism and associated for worship, work, and fellowship (Ephesians 1:22,23). We believe that to these visible churches were committed for observance "till He come" the ordinances of baptism (Matthew 3:13-15) and the Lord's Supper (I Corinthians 11:23-26); and that God has laid upon these churches the task of persuading a lost world to accept Jesus Christ as Saviour and to enthrone Him as Lord and Master.
VIII. THE RESPONSIBILITY
We believe that we are under divine obligation to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered unto the saints by proclaiming to a lost world the acceptance of Jesus Christ as Saviour and the enthroning of Him as Lord and Master (Jude 3, Acts 16:30, Colossians 3:1-3).
Same thing I have witness here in NY.
Also what I notices was those who leave is because many life style was being crampted, and if they are not be hounded by their family they don’t look for a recourse against the Church!
But those who feel guilt or are being guilted by their family will lash out at the Church to make the pain way!
Well, the Filioque is a rather big exception, considering the role it played in the schism between the Eastern and Western Churches.
Interesting question, but a red herring in the present discussion.
Not at all. Any definition of Christian which excludes the early Apostles and saints strikes me as absurd.
The Nicene Creed is the official creed of the EO, but I’m not aware that the EO would deny anything in either of those other creeds (with the exception of the Filioque).
What about those Protestants who claim to be "non-creedal"? Are they Christians according to your definition?
Yeah Spiff, YOU a member in good standing, are the official spokesman for the ex-LDS.
What? Does it disturb you that I am not behaving like a good little Mormon girl and keeping my mouth shut? You act like you know all about those who have left the Church. Let me guess, your alter-ego is LeGrande.
Are not now a member of the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed?
***It says he is a doctor.***
Must have been that horse doctor in Farmington NM who claimed he was a dentist. He pulled one of my teeth in 1955. Notice I said ONE!
Who are you calling stranger? I know your first name, resty. We are not strangers.
***It’s the Jack Mormons who go atheist that I worry about, like my boss.***
Years ago, I saw Madaline Murry O’Hair on the Larry King Live show. She said that the best atheists were former Mormons and Catholics.
8 lb red entropy croaker.
Yum.
Low Church.
***The terms actually came about in the Anglican church in the 16th & 17th centuries***
Here is a way to tell. When you leave the services does the preacher shake hands by sticking out his hand or just two fingers and thumb. If he does it with two fingers you know in the preacher considers you are very low, not worthy of a full five finger handshake.
When has this ever happened to anyone?
All sides have their nutcases. Ruy here apparently thinks that a caste system exists within America.
What then, is a christian?..
It is true that high church/low church refers to the style of service, and I alluded to that, if you read back, the denominations included in high church, as opposed to those in low church.
But, in the South, the phrase went beyond Anglicanism, as Episcopalianism quickly became a religion of the affluent. Prior to the WBTS, the South as a whole had less religious division than the North. There were prosperous Jewish communities in most of the major Southern cities, there were no Jewish ghettoes though. The South in general, showed a greater religious cooperation than did the North. The war ended that. In general, in the South, Catholicism was very much an elite religion, or at the very least, it didn’t contain the connotations of poverty that it did in say, Chicago or New York. The South took religious cues from Maryland in that regard. Catholic immigrants didn’t begin arriving until the 1840’s-50’s, and so by in large, the Catholic tradition was a colonial tradition, and so, Catholics were part of the establishment along with the other religions.
Reconstruction ended when the Bourbons took back power. The Populists rose in the late 1880’s, and they mixed religion and politics, and they noted that in general, some faiths tended to have members of a better standard of living than did others. So, populist politicians who also incorporated religion into their approach openly derided “high church elites” as holding the poor man down. And they had a point, from the end of Reconstruction to WWII, what they were saying was true, in general, there were class disparities in religious preference, and many politicians exploited this successfully to the detriment of the region as a whole.
Then again, this is more of a region specific, and state specific thing, specifically, the gulf states is where this was real prevalent. But, you still do see the pattern today, to a degree, with some obvious examples, and then some less so, though demographic changes have begun to alter this.
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