[NYer]

The bigger question is not when by who will be offering it once it is released. How many US priests speak Latin and know the liturgical movements for the TLM? Our diocese has one Church with the Indult and a sparse attendance. Most of the priests in this diocese do not speak Latin and were educated in 'Resurrection' theology. It will take another decade or so before we see any interest, if at all, in the TLM. Most Catholics here have been strongly indoctrinated into the NO liturgy ... and like it.

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[ELS]

With God anything is possible.

[irishjuggler]

Most Catholics here have been strongly indoctrinated into the NO liturgy ... and like it.

That's a point that I hear a lot. Many (most?) practicing Catholics love all of the hugging, hand-holding, Protestant hymns, etc. And that may be true. However, since Mass attendance has fallen dramatically since 1970, it's pretty obvious that not everyone loves the new Mass. Same goes for priests. I frequently hear that the current generation of priests generally loves Vatican II and everything associated with it. Again, it may be true, but what about all of the priests who have quit? And why are there so few new priests? It's not exactly like the Novus Ordo is inspiring many vocations.

[netmilsmom]

My pastor took only a month to learn the TLM. He was on the rotation to say it at the one downtown parish where it is allowed. (He’s 40)

If this is true, we WILL have a TLM right here in Sterling Heights MI!
And it couldn’t come at a better time. The renovation of our Main just started last week. When I walked into the expanded hall, where Holy Mass is being celebrated until the Main is done, where we normally have two kneelers for Communion, there was a whole line!

I would not be surprised to see an Altar rail and no freestanding Altar when we walk into the new church!
WoooooHooooooo!

[BlackElk]

Once the Tridentine Liturgy has been freed for general use, it will grow slowly but surely. The sense of the sacred, the liturgical music, the sense of piety, coupled with missals providing the folks in the pews with simultaneous translations of Latin and vernacular and the choreography to keep the laity focused on the part of the Mass being celebrated.

It was not for nothing that the Novus Ordo had to be ruthlessly imposed. The restoration of the Traditional Mass will not be that difficult over time. This is particularly true if Tridentine Masses are not stretched out with every bell and whistle to be 90 minute affairs. Let there be such Masses for those who prefer them but let there also be crisply celebrated Trdentine Masses that were the norm in era past. The Novus Ordo is certainly a Mass but its rubrics are not culturally comparable to the Tridentine Mass.

According to our Unitarian second president (in the brilliant McCullough biography) John Adams, in a letter to his wife Abigail from Paris, wrote that the old Mass was a ritual of such power that he feared the result for non-Catholicism if a wide public witnessed it in our country. In those days, it was a crime to celebrate Mass in much of Congregationalist/Unitarian New England. I do not recall such words as those of Adams being expressed as to the Novus Ordo, although it is a valid Mass.

God bless you and yours. I trust that your recovery is moving along.

[Romulus]

I think we are going to see widespread interest right away, with a noticeable number of priests at least dipping their toes into the water over the next 6-12 months. Many will probably receive little or no positive feedback from either their bishops or their parishioners — as I trust they expect. Of these, many will be discouraged and give up the project. What’s needed is an appreciation of the intrinsic value of the traditional rite — an appreciation that fear of congregational displeasure is itself one of the bad fruits of the misbegotten reform, which degraded the Mass into an applause-seeking performance.

Lex orandi, etc.: Both clergy and laity need time to allow liturgy — any liturgy — to form them, either for good or else not-so-good. IMO a year or two of weekly celebration/attendance at the Extraordinary Rite will be needed before it starts to feel like “home”.

[GOP_Thug_Mom]

I know I'm not that young, but I was born in '66 and did not grow up with the Latin Mass--never even learned any Latin. In '81, we moved to a parish (a cathedral, actually) that had a beautiful choir which sang The Gloria (I still don't know which version, but it was the most beautiful I've EVER heard--I felt like I would be lifted off the ground! The men and women had different parts and at times it was "thunderous"), The Sanctus and the Angnus Dei in Latin. The Gloria was so beautiful, I followed the words and learned it. (I was only 16 at the time!)

Fast forward to 2003. I take the boys to a daily Mass where we get to know a holy priest. He invites us to his "private" Tridentine Mass. (later learned he was being a bit disobedient there). This then encourages me to learn and to teach my kids Latin. When we go to the Tridentine Mass at our downtown parish, there are LOTS of young families (especially homeschoolers). The VERY REVERENT Novus Order Latin Mass has a ton of young families, as well.

Then, when visiting family in a liberal diocese, we found an Anglican use parish, so we went there. The Mass was in Latin, and there were sooo many babies crying, my oldest son was complaining. I thought that was a great sign!!

And here was a new one found only in our time--I saw a young 20-something mother with several toddlers in tow on her way to Communion (where everyone kneeled). On the back of her neck was tatooed, "Dominus Vobiscum" in a fancy scroll.

[Straight Vermonter]

Most Catholics here have been strongly indoctrinated into the NO liturgy ... and like it.

Many if not most Catholic's have never seen the TLM so the NO is all they know. I think many will see the beauty of the TLM when it is made available to them.

[Alberta's Child]

The Novus Ordo is dying even as we speak. Parishes are closing all over the country, and many of those that remain are only getting older. Seminaries are empty, too. Meanwhile, vocations to traditional orders increase all the time.

Within 100 years I'm betting very few people will even remember the Novus Ordo.

[tiki]

Exactly what I've been wondering. I can't see either of the priests in our town doing a Latin Mass. I think that our priest would certainly be capable, he speaks Spanish, Italian and French so he has a knack for language. The Spanish speaking people think he speaks like a native and he could use the written text for Latin. I don't think he leans that way and I have heard only a few people pushing for Latin around here. I believe that if enough people ask he would consider it, I just doubt that there will be enough people.

I wouldn't mind it although I have never heard a Latin Mass. We had one priest who re-introduced a few latin responses but he also gender-normed, I was glad when he left. I just pray God will give us what we need.