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To: Alex Murphy
Several years ago, the Baptist General Convention of Texas, which represents moderates who have increasingly distanced themselves from the conservative-led Southern Baptists, started a list of accused clergy for churches, but not the public.

Nor, apparently, for the police.

I'll take "Cover-ups by Another Name" for $2000, Alex.

It's you guys' turn in the grinder ... you have my sympathy. Best thing to do is visibly and vigorously purge yourselves of the satanic perverts. I'd think that would be obvious, by now.

22 posted on 06/15/2007 7:37:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I'll take "Cover-ups by Another Name" for $2000, Alex.

You may be right - I missed that in my reading of the article.

Drawing up such a list for internal purposes is IMO a wise move for dealing with the ecclesiastical issue (say, adultery by a pastoral member), and the charge should be investigated by the ecclesiastical body for church discipline. Any accusations of a civil violation (i.e. statutory rape) should be encouraged to be reported by the accuser to the civil authorities, as well as be investigated by the ecclesiastical body for church discipline.

Hopefully, another list is drawn up that shows the names of those "accused and cleared" covering both the ecclesiastical and civil realms - and said ecclesiastical body should vigorously defend the honor and reputations of these named individuals afterwords, since they are cleared. Any names found on my theoretical first list that don't make it to my theoretical second list should be dismissed and prosecuted immediately, both ecclesiastically and civilly.

It's conceivable that this Baptist group's list is composed of those accused but cleared, but we don't know that from the article, and on first reading it certainly isn't painted that way.

24 posted on 06/15/2007 8:08:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: ArrogantBustard

When a perp has been reported to the police the charge becomes part of overall stats for that type of crime. It’s difficult to collect data related to the specific catagory of “protestant official” from that.

There’s no way to know if the police were notified about all perps on the Baptist General Convention of Texas’ list or not. Considering liability issues, I’d think that BGCoT would be wise to have reported every single case to the police. A list to collect data, so they can form policy or so a perp can’t just pick up & move to greener pastures within their group would be a different matter.

Makes me wonder if the Scouts keep a central list or the Department of Education for all teachers who’ve been reported. Can’t say that I’ve ever seen anything like that published.


55 posted on 06/15/2007 1:11:24 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: ArrogantBustard; Alex Murphy
I'll take "Cover-ups by Another Name" for $2000, Alex.

TRINITY LUTHERAN SEMINARY MAY 7, 2004

Organized coverup? Worldwide Coverup? Coordinated attacks on the media?

Forgive me for suspecting your "sympathy" is Crocodile tears.

56 posted on 06/15/2007 1:11:26 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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