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To: vladimir998; markomalley
You can complain all you want, but Ignatius’ letter to the Smyrneans is genuine.

Not the capital "c"'s in Catholic and Church --- but you know that, right??? The "Catholic Church" was an invertion of Constantine in the 4th century. Those are the historical facts at odds with your hysterical myths.

28 posted on 06/07/2007 6:41:48 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
The "Catholic Church" was an invertion of Constantine in the 4th century.

LOL..oy vey... this canard again. Uncle Chip, I dunno where you got this "fact", but it is pure and simple BS, and it harms rather than helps your case.

Show me one, ONE primary source document from the 4th century that supports this claim. Or 5th century. Or 6th century. Where can I find this reported Eusebius? Sozemen? Take your pick of Late Roman historians, and find me one that says anything like this at all.

This nonsense about Constantine and paganization of the Church is *made up*. It never happened. Ask any serious historian of the period.

34 posted on 06/07/2007 6:54:48 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Uncle Chip

You wrote:

“Not the capital “c”’s in Catholic and Church -— but you know that, right???”

No, it was used essentially as a proper noun.

“”The “Catholic Church” was an invertion of Constantine in the 4th century.”

Nope. The Catholci Church existed BEFORE him. This was known to people in his day as well as long before.

“Those are the historical facts at odds with your hysterical myths.”

I have no myths whatsoever and I am never hysterical. You, however, seem to be hysterically avoiding my question.

Where exactly in the magisterium do you see that Peter was the first bishop of Rome?


90 posted on 06/07/2007 1:50:59 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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