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To: sandyeggo
So even though the word means repetitious, prattle, you're going to just accept the fact that it means something completely different?

Look I honestly think saying 100 our fathers is not a sin, there is nothing per se that is wrong with it (IMHO) its just not effective prayer and its the opposite of what Jesus was telling us to do. He said don't pray in public to draw attention pray in private and when you’re there don’t just prattle words to God over and over again because thats what pagans do. I don't even think its bad if you start your morning with an our father *every morning* followed by a more personal prayer, a more deeply thought out prayer.

But to hand someone a rosary and say ‘if you say 10 our fathers it has this significance’ when that time is better spent really meditating on Gods glory your hurting your prayer life one of the strongest part of your relationship to God.

225 posted on 06/05/2007 9:34:34 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: N3WBI3
I don't even think its bad if you start your morning with an our father *every morning* followed by a more personal prayer, a more deeply thought out prayer.

I don't understand how one does not make the Our Father an extremely personal prayer. I mean every word that I say, each time that I say it. It is such a powerful experience to speak to the Father in words Our Savior gave us.

How can you say the Our Father and not have a truly, deeply religious experience?

227 posted on 06/05/2007 10:18:50 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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233 posted on 06/05/2007 10:57:29 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: N3WBI3
But to hand someone a rosary and say ‘if you say 10 our fathers it has this significance’ when that time is better spent really meditating on Gods glory your hurting your prayer life one of the strongest part of your relationship to God.

Meditation is precisely what the rosary is. I view the repetition of the prayers, though not without value in themselves, as something of a timing device. They provide a structure to instill discipline in prayer.

When my family gathers for the rosary we usually employ a devotional book that provides subjects for meditation. This evening, we meditated on Judas' betrayal. With our voices united in prayer, and our fingers moving across the beads, our minds contemplated Judas' treachery. We considered how Jesus would rather be scourged by frank enemies than kissed by treacherous friends, how our sins hurt more than the crimes of men who hate Him, how Judas committed two sins, one of betrayal, but the other far graver, that of despair. Realizing what an aweful thing he had done, Judas despaired, and doubted the mercy of God. We also thought about how Judas flung the thirty pieces of silver into the temple, and how we lose God with sin, and lose whatever we prefer to God. And we meditated on how Judas didn't care for Christ's way of reigning on earth. He had listened to Jesus talk about the cross and the blessings of poverty and Judas was disgusted by it. He hanged himself. By refusing the cross he lost eternal happiness.

Deep stuff, but that is where the rosary leads. Into the depths of the gospel.

234 posted on 06/05/2007 11:07:13 PM PDT by LordBridey
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