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To: pjr12345
My father once told me that the one talking the loudest in a discussion is probably wrong.

Baptismal regeneration is definitely the minority position - and I have studied the issue for over 30 years of ministry.

I did read your entry, and find it unconvincing.

Grace and peace to you.

17 posted on 06/04/2007 12:42:51 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper

I think pj was suggesting that you were arguing against points he was not making in a manner which suggested you thought he was making them, especially about the temporal relationship of salvation and Baptism. And I didn’t hear anything loud.


21 posted on 06/04/2007 12:50:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.)
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To: LiteKeeper
My father once told me that the one talking the loudest in a discussion is probably wrong.

I'm sure your father was a very nice fellow.

Baptismal regeneration is definitely the minority position

So your argument is, "everyone's doin' it!"?

and I have studied the issue for over 30 years of ministry.

Correction: So your argument is, "everyone's doin't it, and so am I... for a long time!"?

I did read your entry, and find it unconvincing.

Maybe you did read my entry, but your reply posting was "canned". I'm sorry if it doesn't convince you. However, I would like to hear why. Also, I'd like you (or someone else) to square the logical question of "faith only". That is, does man possess free will?

23 posted on 06/04/2007 12:54:10 PM PDT by pjr12345 (I'm a Christian Conservative Republican, NOT a Republican Conservative Christian.)
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To: LiteKeeper
Baptismal regeneration is definitely the minority position - and I have studied the issue for over 30 years of ministry.

Minority position?

A billion Catholics believe it, 300 million Orthodox believe it, and many Anglican Protestants believe it, as do Church of Christ Protestants and some others. I'm not sure, but I think some Lutherans believe it as well. Let's say 100 million Protestants believe it, over and against 200 million who don't.

That works out to something like 85-90% of all professing Christians. 85% is not a minority.

48 posted on 06/04/2007 3:29:47 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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