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I Looked at the Early Church and There Wasn't a Baptist in Sight [Ken Hensley]
Los Angeles Lay Catholic Mission ^ | 1997 | Lesley Payne

Posted on 06/03/2007 6:11:12 PM PDT by Titanites

PROTESTANTS DISCOVER CATHOLICISM

In 1992, a member of First Baptist Church in Montrose, California asked for theological guidance from his senior pastor, Ken Hensley. The church member, angered that his wife refused to leave the Catholic Church, had been debating with Catholic Answers by mail. Catholic Answers responded by sending him some apologetics materials. The man felt these were over his head. He asked his pastor to review a tape they had sent him, to tell him where they were wrong.

"I looked down at the cover of the tape," says Hensley, "and it said 'by Scott Hahn.' My eyes almost popped out of my head. Scott Hahn had been an old friend of mine in seminary. I came home and listened to the tapes. I gave Scott a call in Steubenville and said, `What's going on with you? I can't believe you've become a Catholic!' He and I began to talk. I was opposed to Catholicism, but I became committed to the idea that I had to study it through, to be sure I was right to be a Protestant. Scott led me to many titles of books. Over a period of about four years, I became more and more convinced that I would have to leave the Protestant church."

Hensley obtained materials from Catholic apologetics groups like Catholic Answers and St. Joseph Communications, as well as anti-Catholic organizations like Alpha and Omega Ministries. "I ordered every taped debate I could get from all these organizations," he says. "The arguments against Sola Scriptura began to win out in my mind."

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: baptist; catholic; christianity; coversion; hensley
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1 posted on 06/03/2007 6:11:15 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites

No good ever comes from these kind of contentious threads unless you just need your “suffer for the faith” fix for the day. I guess some people just want to fight.


2 posted on 06/03/2007 6:16:55 PM PDT by Uriah_lost ("build bridges where you can - but draw lines where you must." -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Salvation

Ken Hensley was a pastor of a First Baptist Church prior to becoming a Catholic.


3 posted on 06/03/2007 6:18:06 PM PDT by Titanites (College of Propaganda)
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To: Titanites
There were no Mohammedans in the early church either, and yet...

Catholic Church Collects Money for Mosque
16 March 2007

Cologne, Germany (dpa) - When the Rev. Franz Meurer stands at the altar this Sunday in his priestly vestments, he'll say to the congregation: "Today's collection is for the construction of the big new mosque in Ehrenfeld."

Meurer, 55, is not expecting protests. Both the board of Cologne's St. Theodore Catholic Church and the parish council have unanimously approved the action.

"It's only natural that we're helping them," he said of the Muslims living in a city that is one of the main centres of Catholicism in Germany.

After the special collection was announced last Sunday, several parishioners asked if it was really necessary - considering, for instance, that four young Turks beat a family man into a coma on the Thursday before Ash Wednesday.

Christian churches don't pass the plates to erect pagan temples to false gods represented by false prophets.
4 posted on 06/03/2007 6:22:05 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Uriah_lost
No good ever comes from these kind of contentious threads unless you just need your “suffer for the faith” fix for the day.

That is a matter of opinion. I notice that you haven't posted this comment on the threads discussing Catholics converting to Protestantism such as these: Leaving the Catholic Church, A Letter of Resignation and A Jesuit Meets Jesus (by leaving the Catholic Church)

Your condemnation is a little lopsided, don't you think?

5 posted on 06/03/2007 6:25:12 PM PDT by Titanites (College of Propaganda)
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To: Old_Mil
There were no Mohammedans in the early church either, and yet...

I note your comparison of Baptists with Mohammedans.

Christian churches don't pass the plates to erect pagan temples to false gods represented by false prophets.

Rather than false god, I think it is more a false understanding of the One, True, God. But that is a topic for a seperate thread.

6 posted on 06/03/2007 6:29:11 PM PDT by Titanites (College of Propaganda)
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I note your comparison of Baptists with Mohammedans.

You misunderstand (I suspect deliberately). Regardless, if you believe that allah is actually "the one true God", and that Islam is merely a "misunderstanding" of him then your theological problems run deeper than being Catholic.

And I speak as someone who left Catholicism just this easter.
7 posted on 06/03/2007 6:34:29 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Titanites

In my Catholic diocese several synagogues were destroyed by arson and the Bishop gave $$$ to rebuild them.


8 posted on 06/03/2007 6:37:41 PM PDT by Macoraba
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To: Titanites
I think my choice to not participate in something I think is damaging to the Kingdom is perfectly consistent. Some times I just can’t let you guys slide and feel the need to remind you what I think of “vain contentions”. If you are alluding to some particular bias in my commenting, you’ll just have to accept that that is not the case. Mostly the threads about Romans converting make me too angry to post even marginally coherent comments.
9 posted on 06/03/2007 6:43:45 PM PDT by Uriah_lost ("build bridges where you can - but draw lines where you must." -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Macoraba
In my Catholic diocese several synagogues were destroyed by arson and the Bishop gave $$$ to rebuild them.

Our parish donated money to help rebuild another church. A separate donation was taken up and the parishoners were made fully aware of where their donation would go, which is the proper way to do it, in my opinion. We shouldn't just be helping those who hold our same belief.

10 posted on 06/03/2007 6:58:55 PM PDT by Titanites (College of Propaganda)
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To: Old_Mil
Regardless, if you believe that allah is actually "the one true God", and that Islam is merely a "misunderstanding" of him then your theological problems run deeper than being Catholic.

Why don't you start a separate thread to discuss this? I'll participate.

And I speak as someone who left Catholicism just this easter.

You are always welcome to return.

11 posted on 06/03/2007 7:02:53 PM PDT by Titanites (College of Propaganda)
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13 posted on 06/03/2007 7:26:08 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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***No good ever comes from these kind of contentious threads unless you just need your “suffer for the faith” fix for the day. I guess some people just want to fight.***

RAH RAH SISBOOM BAH! Popcorn time!


14 posted on 06/03/2007 7:52:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: Titanites

“The sophists and the monks taught and believed that no one can know for a certainty whether he is in a state of grace, even if he does good works according to his ability and lives a blameless life. This statement, widely accepted and believed, was a principle and practically an article of faith throughout the papacy. With this wicked idea of theirs they utterly ruined the doctrine of faith, overthrew faith, disturbed consciences, abolished Christ from the church, obscured and denied all the blessings and gifts of the Holy Spirit, abrogated the true worship of God, and established idolatry, contempt of God, and blasphemy in the hearts of men. For anyone who has such doubts about the will of God toward him and who does not believe for a certainty that he is in a state of grace cannot believe that he has the forgiveness of sins, that God cares about him, or that he can be saved.”


15 posted on 06/03/2007 8:02:48 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Guess who.)
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To: Old_Mil
Christian churches don't pass the plates to erect pagan temples to false gods represented by false prophets.

Unfortunately the Churches in Germany, Protestant and Catholic, are in tough shape. That goes for the Lutherans as well as the Catholics. Of course, raising money for Muslims is absurd--the work of the devil, IMHO. This is the first I have heard of this idiocy, but having read your post, I'll bet the German Lutherans are probably doing the same thing.

Certainly there is nothing in orthodox Catholic teaching that would support this nonsense.

16 posted on 06/03/2007 8:05:26 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Titanites

I guess John the Baptist was a little too rough around the edges for these refined fellows. ;-0


17 posted on 06/03/2007 8:36:05 PM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: Titanites

The Catholics weren’t present either.

Bashing Baptists seems to be the order of the weekend. This is the second such nonsense I’ve seen.

Protestantism came about because folk got tired of the nonsense promoted by Rome.

The true church doesn’t reside in Rome. It resides in the hearts and minds and works of true believers REGARDLESS of denomination.


18 posted on 06/03/2007 9:47:52 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: NYer

Another finding the way to His Church.


19 posted on 06/03/2007 10:12:41 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites

Allah is simply the Arab word for God (THE ONE GOD). Given that Mohammed’s revelation owes so much to the Jews, perhaps the best way to thing of it as a distortion of Judaism. To me it seems as related to Judaism as Mormanism is to Christianity.


20 posted on 06/03/2007 10:15:19 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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