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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS 'ROME'S EXORCIST'
SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007

Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Joe 6-pack

I have read some of Martin’s books, but he is an ex-priest and I do take what he says with a grain of salt. Our diocese exorcist has lead a very long life! Fr. Amorth’s books were great reads, I do recommend them.


161 posted on 05/31/2007 2:52:36 PM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: netmilsmom



~ PRAYER ~

St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle
 Be our protection against the wickedness
and snares of the devil;
May God rebuke him, we  humbly pray,
 and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
 by the power of God,
 Thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits
who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
 Amen
+

Explanation of the Prayer of Saint Michael [Father Robert J. Altier]

The Chaplet of St. Michael

How The Prayer of St. Michael Came to be Written

THE THREE ARCHANGELS: [St. Michael, St. Gabriel, St. Raphael]

Feast of St. Michael the Archangel

Apologies to St. Michael

The Story of Michael

Act of Consecration to St Michael the Archangel (for the Feast of St Michael, September 29)


162 posted on 05/31/2007 2:53:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ears_to_hear

No one will care, just answer the question.


163 posted on 05/31/2007 3:00:03 PM PDT by tiki
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To: 1000 silverlings; ears_to_hear; N3WBI3
it's superstition

From the article...

In Father Amorth's appointment book, women outnumber men by three to one. That is perhaps because they are more in tune with the spiritual, says the exorcist, or because they are special targets as the descendants of Eve.

LOL. That's called "covering all bases."

166 posted on 05/31/2007 3:06:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Frank Sheed
It's that Italianate Latin stuff.

I'm sure that chant may have some little quirks of its own.

Our choirmaster uses the guide to pronunciation in the front of the "Chants of the Church" book - Spence, Charles E., ed., Chants of the Church: Selected Gregorian Chants. (Toledo, Ohio: Gregorian Institute of America, 1953.) It's a very dense 3 pages that explains it all.

The great thing about this book is that it includes (in red) an interlinear translation under the Latin. It is a strictly literal word-for-word translation, which means the English doesn't make sense at first glance, but it sure helps with Latin comprehension! I found a copy of my own on line dirt cheap (it's of interest to nobody but choir singers who do chant).

167 posted on 05/31/2007 3:23:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: DieHard the Hunter
YAAAAY! Somebody else who has read Moonfleet!

That is an awesome book (did J. Meade Falkner ever write anything else? and was it as good?)

168 posted on 05/31/2007 3:24:23 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: ears_to_hear
Why is it "reasonable"? Where do you find grounds to believe spirits care what language one speaks, does God?

The grounds are simply in the statement by an old priest in this article. He has performed thousands of exorcisms during his life. He has an intimate knowledge of evil as his speciality. We can believe him or not. I do not intend to experiment with evil and try a few exorcisms and see if he is right or wrong. I take his word for it. That seems reasonable to me.

Biblical grounds - Scripture does not suggest what languages to use for exorcism as far as I know.

Is the name of Jesus spoken in English less powerful than when spoken in Latin?

I think it is the same. The article is about an series of exorcisms and lengthy exorcism prayers using one language over the other. It is not limited to the holy name of Jesus. The exorcism prayers are not a series of Jesus-Jesus-Jesus, until demons depart.

The best answer I have for why it could be more effective is simply related to the diabolic itself. The diabolic is all about destruction, disorder, disunity, disorientation, disequilibrium, and all the opposites to unity or union with God. Latin represents the official language of a unified Church. Therefore Latin is spoken as the Churches language and represents unity versus a diversity of language. Outside of this I think we need to ask the priest.

The problem is Catholicism is a faith with much of its doctrine built on the speculation of men and what sounds "reasonable" or "likely " without a foundation in the word of God

This is not a doctrinal issue, but one of specialist in his field observing results.

169 posted on 05/31/2007 3:25:39 PM PDT by part deux
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To: Frank Sheed

You can have my share! I'll stick to Bass or Belhaven . . . used motor oil is not my favorite tipple. But some folks like it . . . < g >

170 posted on 05/31/2007 3:32:34 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: kidd
To believe this one would have to believe that the delivery is more important than the content and meaning of the prayer. If that is the case, then prayer becomes a magical incantation rather than a communication with God. Rote prayer without contemplation is not prayer.

This was my first thought as well. It is not the language that the prayers are spoken in, it is to Whom the the prayers are spoken to.

I also agree with you charitable assesment of Fr. Amorth.

171 posted on 05/31/2007 3:34:59 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

I might just have to steal your tagline....baby #3 is due Decemeber 1st.


172 posted on 05/31/2007 3:36:42 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
lol. Pig Latin is used probably during the Animal-Blessing masses such as this one at St. Monica's Catholic Church in Moraga, CA, where pets and their owners are lined up before entering the Pet Mass...

I think they put the pigs toward the back of the line...just in case.

173 posted on 05/31/2007 3:39:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I learned “classical Latin” in a classical high school curriculum which changed over (got dumb) in my third year.

I “served” Latin saying “Church Latin” with an old Pastor who was born before Vatican I, I think.

So, pardon me if I get mixed up. There are differences. Classical uses “hard C’s” all the time whereas Church uses the “CH” sound (as in caelum).

What we need is to have the Pope give us the go ahead so we can exercise those Latin muscles again!


174 posted on 05/31/2007 4:07:33 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I am weeping tears of pure joy! Bless you!


175 posted on 05/31/2007 4:08:25 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: sandyeggo; AnAmericanMother

Deus, in nómine tuo salvum me fac,
et virtúte tua age causam meam.

Deus, audi oratiónem meam;
áuribus pércipe verba oris mei.

Nam supérbi insurréxunt contra me, et violénti quasiérunt vitam meam;
non proposuérunt Deum ante óculos suos.

Ecce, Deus ádjuvat me,
óminus susténtat vitam meam.

Retórque malum in adversários meos,
et pro fidelitáte tua déstrue ilos.

Voluntárie sacrificábo tibi,
celebrábo nomen tuum, Dómine, quia bonum est.

Nam ex omni tribulatióne eripuit me,
et inimícos meos confúsos vidit óculos meus.

Glória Patri.

V. Salvum (-am) fac servum tuum (ancillam tuam).
R. Deus meus, sperántem in te.

V. Esto ei, Dómini, turris fortitúdinis.
R. A fácie inimíci.

V. Nihil proficiat inimicus in eo (ea).
R. Et fílius iniquitátis non appónat nocére ei.

V. Mitte ei, Dómine, auxilium de sancto.
R. Et de Sion tuére eum (ea)

V. Dómine, exaudi oratiónem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.

V. Dóminus vobíscum.
R. Et cum spírito tuo.

Orémus Oratio

DEUS, cui próprium est miseréri semper et párcere: súscipe deprecatiónem nostram; ut hunc fámulum tuum, quem (hanc fámulam tuam, quam) delictórum caténa constríngit, miserátio tuæ pietátis cleménter absólvat.

DÓMINE sancte, Pater omnípotens, ætérne Deus, Pater Dómini nostri Jesu Christi, qui illum réfugam tyránnum et apóstatam gehénnae ígnibus deputásti, quique Unigénitum tuum in hunc mundum misísti, ut illum rugiéntem contéret: velóciter atténdem accélera, ut erípias hóminem ad imáginem et similitúdinem tuam creátum, a ruína et dæmónio meridiáno. Da, Dómine, terrórem tuum super béstiam, quæ extérminat vineam tuam. Da fidúciam servis tuis contra nequíssimum dracónem pugnáre fortíssime, ne contémnat sperántes in te, et ne dicat, sicut in Pharaóne, qui jam dixit: Deum non novi, nec Israël dimítto. Urgeat illum déxtera tua potens discédere a fámulo tuo N. (a fámula tua N.) +, ne diútius præsúmat captívum tenére, quem tu ad imáginem tuam fácere dignátus es, et in Fílio tuo redemísti: Qui tecum vivit et regnat in unitáte Spíritus Sancti Deus, per ómnia sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.


176 posted on 05/31/2007 4:11:17 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: Aquinasfan
Very interesting article. This subject is one I am both drawn to and repelled by.

I highly recommend "Hostage to the Devil" by Malachi Martin. Terrifying book though.

Would you also recommend Malachi Martin's books and writing in which he reveals that the Vatican has been controlled by Luciferians and Free Masons for a long time?

Suggested reading, "Keys To This Blood", Malachi Martin.

177 posted on 05/31/2007 4:28:53 PM PDT by Risky-Riskerdo
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To: ears_to_hear
Where's your ACTUAL evidence that Catholics are brainwashed?

Well the gullibility shown on this thread alone is strong evidence.

von Dollinger predicted it in the 19th century;

"In the future every Roman Catholic when asked why he believes this or that can and may give but the one answer: 'I believe or reject it because the infallible Pope has bidden it to be believed or rejected'"---Declarations and Letters, pgs. 101,101

178 posted on 05/31/2007 4:32:11 PM PDT by Risky-Riskerdo
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To: ears_to_hear
Of course that is after the exorcism of the “holy water” right?

Can you show me where we are taught that there is any such thing as “holy water” or that it has any power?

That's in the "Gospel of Judas" isn't it?

179 posted on 05/31/2007 4:33:16 PM PDT by Risky-Riskerdo
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