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My (Imminent) Reception into the Roman Catholic Church
Right Reason ^ | May 17, 2007 | Robert Koons

Posted on 05/28/2007 11:09:15 AM PDT by Titanites

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Robert Koons extensive notes (94 pages) can be read at NOTES. This is a .pdf file.
1 posted on 05/28/2007 11:09:20 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: NYer; Salvation

Robert Koons’ recent conversion story (former Lutheran Church Missoui Synod). He has provided extensive notes explaining his decision.


2 posted on 05/28/2007 11:13:59 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites

read later


3 posted on 05/28/2007 11:25:10 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Titanites

Welcome home Robert! The angels rejoice in Heaven. I pray that all will see the light, stop denying Christ and return to the Church He founded.


4 posted on 05/28/2007 11:25:54 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: LiteKeeper; Gamecock

Anyone keeping score?

(And remember, if the numbers go toward the Protestants, it’s a well-documented fact that only scholars cross the Tiber towards Rome, and only uneducated hicks cross the other way)

/sarcasm


5 posted on 05/28/2007 11:41:23 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Larry Lucido; LiteKeeper; Gamecock
Anyone keeping score?

Anyone following up, to see if he became a Freemason after his supposed conversion?

6 posted on 05/28/2007 12:06:02 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (FR Member Alex Murphy: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent)
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To: Larry Lucido
I don't know if they're keeping score, all I know is that we do rejoice when another person finds their faith home. It isn't a competition, it is eternal life and death and while some may make an altar call and never hear from a fellow Christian again, joining the Catholic church is a big deal. It is an action that sometimes takes years of discernment and when the decision is made there are still months of classes, just to make sure you know what you are assenting to and know what the Church teaches.

As for "uneducated hicks", we become educated and join the Church, we just don't have any notoriety or fame so we don't make the news. Our parish welcomed 19 new members this Easter.

7 posted on 05/28/2007 12:14:52 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Larry Lucido
it’s a well-documented fact that only scholars cross the Tiber towards Rome, and only uneducated hicks cross the other way

"Donut Man" converts to Catholicism

8 posted on 05/28/2007 12:21:16 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (FR Member Alex Murphy: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent)
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To: Titanites

Lead Kindly Light. As Anglican convert, Cardinal Newman, wrote “not to lose what they have but to gain what they have not, by means of what they have, more may be given to them... “


9 posted on 05/28/2007 12:32:51 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Titanites; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Thank you again, Titanites, for posting this thread along with the link to the notes.

For those who may be interested, here is the list of upcoming guests for EWTN's program - The Journey Home. EWTN is broadcast over most cable stations, satellite tv and via the Internet at http://www.ewtn.com


May 28
Memorial Day
Paul Thigpen, Gordon Sibley, Chris Dixon
Former Methodists

Jun 4
Bruce Sullivan
Former Church of Christ minister

Jun 25
Dean Lanton
Former Southern Baptist minister


10 posted on 05/28/2007 1:00:36 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: tiki
It is an action that sometimes takes years of discernment and when the decision is made there are still months of classes, just to make sure you know what you are assenting to and know what the Church teaches.

I don't know if it was "years of discernment" for me; I went from atheism to Catholicism with a stop along the way as an agnostic. I do know that it was a combination of a recognition of the simplicity of faith and the understanding that one need not leave one's intellect at the Church door in order to believe which lead me to the Church of Rome. Dispite its earthly errors, it still is the first, best and greatest house of our Father.

As for the classes; well . . . there was little about Christian or Catholic doctrine which was unknown to me as I had studied both in order to be clever in my disdain. Little did I know the sneaky irony of the Father as I was lead to Him while thinking I was going in the other direction. For the one who set heaven and earth spinning has little trouble with outwitting a dullard like me.

11 posted on 05/28/2007 1:00:49 PM PDT by Dogrobber
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LOL, whenever I think about being Catholic, I remember literally yelling at God as I walked across my kitchen one day, "If your want me to go to church, MAKE me"

Thank goodness He did it in a wonderful way.

12 posted on 05/28/2007 1:05:01 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
As for "uneducated hicks", we become educated and join the Church, we just don't have any notoriety or fame so we don't make the news.

I think you missed the point about the uneducated hicks part. Seems that only uneducated hicks leave the Catholic Church. Even your statement alludes to the idea that uneducated hicks that get educated join the Church.

13 posted on 05/28/2007 1:05:59 PM PDT by GoLightly
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it’s just anecdotal but something i have noticed is that converts to Catholicism usually do not blast their former denomination. As my wife would say, when she became caholic, it simply completed and built upon a Christian foundation already laid. maybe a few bricks are removed but really it’s more about the fullness of the faith than condemning the former denomination. She has positive memories of that early faith still.

Yet, when Catholics leave to join a Protestant church, we are usually blasted. I know that this can’t always be true, yet these “whore of babylon” judgments on us are just ludicrous.

Condemning the Church is similar condemning your own parents. Even if Luther was “right”, how can he be justified condemning the very Church that passed on that faith to him to begin with?


14 posted on 05/28/2007 1:20:42 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: tiki

Yes, He is the original “multi-tasker” isn’t He.


15 posted on 05/28/2007 1:22:54 PM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: GoLightly
it’s a well-documented fact that only scholars cross the Tiber towards Rome, and only uneducated hicks cross the other way)

It seemed to me that he was implying, with tongue in cheek, that that was the opinion of Catholics. IOW, that Catholics like to think that only brilliant scholars find the Church and only people who are idiot, know-nothings would ever leave and so that also implies that non-scholars would never consider becoming Catholic as a matter of faith.

uneducated hicks that get educated

Well, you have to know and assent to what you believe but you still don't have to be a scholar. You don't have to read the early fathers, you don't have to know the whole history of the church, you just have to know what it believes and assent to that belief.

16 posted on 05/28/2007 1:28:34 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman

I have written this very thing a number of times on this forum. As a convert myself, I never felt the need to bad-talk my Protestant roots. Nor did I feel a need to bad-talk to my Protestant siblings.

I didn’t feel compelled to show contempt for their choice of church to attend or to aggressively proselytize to them. As a result, one of my sisters tells me how great she thinks the Pope is and the other sister attends Mass with me when she visits from out-of-state. Both of my parents—who were not Catholic—were so happy to be visited by a priest when they were dying. It was a great and unforgettable moment for them-—and for me.

God is good—all the time. All the time, God is good.


17 posted on 05/28/2007 1:36:52 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: tiki
Yikes!

God is much better to us than we deserve, isn't He?

18 posted on 05/28/2007 1:39:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Running On Empty
I had to give up being snarky to the Episcopalians (my former denomination) for Lent . . . .

. . . .but they're just such easy targets!

19 posted on 05/28/2007 1:40:03 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman
Condemning the Church is similar condemning your own parents.

I agree.

Even if Luther was “right”, how can he be justified condemning the very Church that passed on that faith to him to begin with?

Do we get our faith from our church or is it a gift from God?

20 posted on 05/28/2007 2:34:43 PM PDT by GoLightly
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