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To: Alex Murphy

Remind me again of why non-Catholics on this site should not have their own caucus when this propaganda is posted for Catholics. To equate anyone with Jesus Christ, the world’s only Redeemer, is deeply offensive to Christians.


5 posted on 05/22/2007 7:04:45 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

I don’t think anyone says you can’t have your own caucus threads.


6 posted on 05/22/2007 7:08:01 AM PDT by tiki
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To: kittymyrib
To equate anyone with Jesus Christ, the world’s only Redeemer, is deeply offensive to Christians.

Who is "equating" anyone with Jesus Christ? Not Catholics.

-A8

9 posted on 05/22/2007 7:19:27 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: kittymyrib
Ever look at what even Martin Luther said?
One should honor Mary as she herself wished and as she expressed it in the Magnificat. She praised God for his deeds. How then can we praise her? The true honor of Mary is the honor of God, the praise of God’s grace . . . Mary is nothing for the sake of herself, but for the sake of Christ . . . Mary does not wish that we come to her, but through her to God. ( Luther-Explanation of the Magnificat, 1521).

Ever wonder what the Early Christians believed?

Blessed Virgin, immaculate and pure you are the sinless Mother of your Son, the mighty Lord of the universe. You are holy and inviolate, the hope of the hopeless and sinful; we sing your praises. We praise you as full of every grace, for you bore the God-Man. We all venerate you; we invoke you and implore your aid...Holy and immaculate Virgin...be our intercessor and advocate at the hour of death and judgment...you are holy in the sight of God, to Whom be honor and glory, majesty, and power forever (373 AD, St. Ephem of Edessa)

It becomes you to be mindful of us, as you stand near Him Who granted you all graces, for you are the Mother of God and our Queen. Help us for the sake of the King, the Lord God Master Who was born of you. For this reason you are called ‘full of Grace’...” (373 St. Athanasius)

Blessed Virgin Mary, who can worthily repay you with praise and thanksgiving for having rescued a fallen world by your generous consent? ...accept then such poor thanks as we have to offer, unequal though they be to your merits. Receive our gratitude and obtain by your prayers the pardon of our sins. Take our prayers into the sanctuary of heaven and enable them to bring about our peace with God...Holy Mary, help the miserable, strengthen the discouraged, comfort the sorrowful, pray for your people, plead for the clergy, intercede for all women consecrated to God. May all who venerate you, feel now your help and protection. ...Make it your continual care to pray for the people of God, for you were blessed by God and were made worthy to bear the Redeemer of the world, who lives and reigns for ever. (St Augustine in 430 A.D. )

Dear Friend,Perhaps you should examine what belief system “sold you the Brooklyn Bridge”

It does NOT “square up” with 2000 plus years of consistency

11 posted on 05/22/2007 7:44:34 AM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: kittymyrib
Remind me again of why non-Catholics on this site should not have their own caucus

But you can.

when this propaganda is posted for Catholics.

Propaganda? I don't see the essay as intended to persuade. I see some language about Mary and her place in the heilsgeschichte.

To equate anyone with Jesus Christ, the world’s only Redeemer, is deeply offensive to Christians.

As a Catholic, I agree.

12 posted on 05/22/2007 7:45:11 AM PDT by Mad Dawg
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To: kittymyrib

Re-writing the Bible, and splitting with the church Christ himself established is deeply offensive to Christians.


13 posted on 05/22/2007 7:47:26 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kittymyrib
To equate anyone with Jesus Christ, the world’s only Redeemer, is deeply offensive to Christians.

It's a good thing that Fr. John Hardon, SJ, didn't say that.

14 posted on 05/22/2007 8:16:57 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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