[Antoninus]

The "Coredemption" Express has certainly left the station because of the anti-Marian heresies all over the place within the Latin Church and also because of rising esteem for the promise of the Marian apparation to Ida Peerdeman that with such a declaration graces would follow that would derail an oncoming global calamity.

Those kinds of reasons are far from convincing to me. I've never heard of the apparitions to Ida Peerdeman. Has the Church ruled on the validity of these apparitions? It strikes me as very unusual that Mary would ask for new and higher titles. Definitely out of keeping with the humility of the BVM throughout history. Seeking to be exalted to the level of God is the territory of a different kind of spirit, altogether.

As I said, I'll continue to pray about it.

[Claud]

Seeking to be exalted to the level of God is the territory of a different kind of spirit, altogether.

I have heard that part of the problem is that Latin "co-" does not have the connotations of equality that English "co-" as in co-pilot, co-conspirator. Co-redemptrix simply means--so I have heard--one who participates in redemption, which could be said of all of us. Anyway, that's what I heard...not that I buy it necessarily.

I don't much care for this definition either...but I'll take a wait and see tack.