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Ah yes. Marian coredemption.
The name however is misleading, making Mary co equal to Jesus. So unless they change the name, one doubts it will be passed.
The doctrine means that Mary as the first Christian and ineed all Christians are co partners in redeeming the world by our “yes” to God.
The biblical reference is in Paul, but I can’t find it right now...something about talking about his sufferings and how they help complete Christ’s redemptions.
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With all due respect, I doubt you’ll see any dogmatic declarations coming out of Rome for the foreseeable future that could in any way adversely impact on the dialog between Rome and the Orthodox Churches. This one likely would. Assuming we can resolve the proper exercise of the Petrine Ministry, we will have quite enough to deal with discussing in a new Ecumenical Council Rome’s post 7th Ecumenical Council dogmas without adding more divisive issues.
Just as a matter of curiosity, what heresy or problem would a “Coredemptrix” dogma address? If none, what is the point of such a dogma?
Mary, Mediatrix of all graces, help of Christians, pray for us.
Coredemptrix - Latin for the woman with the redeemer.
Mary reigns! Mary rules! Mary conquers!
Mary reigns as Queen of Heaven!
Mary rules through her Immaculate Heart!
Mary conquers as the Immaculate Conception crushing the serpent!
Mary is SALVATRIX!!!
Co-Redemptrix + Mediatrix of All Graces = Salvatrix
Queen of Heaven rejoice, alleluia: For He whom you merited to bear, alleluia, Has risen as He said, alleluia. Pray for us to God, alleluia.
V. Rejoice and be glad, O Virgin Mary, alleluia.
R. Because the Lord is truly risen, alleluia.
O God, who by the Resurrection of Thy Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, granted joy to the whole world: grant we beg Thee, that through the intercession of the Virgin Mary, His Mother, we may lay hold of the joys of eternal life. Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.
AVE MARIA, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.
SALVE REGINA, Mater misericordiae. Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra, salve. Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae. Ad te Suspiramus, gementes et flentes in hac lacrimarum valle. Eia ergo, Advocata nostra, illos tuos misericordes oculos ad nos converte. Et Iesum, benedictum fructum ventris tui, nobis post hoc exsilium ostende. O clemens, o pia, o dulcis Virgo Maria.
Anyone who toys with the idea of Mary being coredemptrix is flirting with heresy.
It’s that simple.
Ave Maria
Three points:
1. What’s in a name. The title Co-Redemptrix is not as old as the doctrine it has come to denote for nearly a half millennium. It first appears in a popular hymn of the 14th century. By the first part of the 17th century it had replaced in theology texts earlier terms such as salvatrix, liberatrix, etc., used before this time by theologians when discussing Our Lady’s unique cooperation in the work of the Redemption. The word Co-Redemptrix was adopted, not to put Mary on a par with Jesus, but precisely to show the opposite: that while Jesus and Mary are united in a single work of salvation, Mary is not on a par with Jesus. This is what the Latin original means, and conveys. If someone can find a better name for the part played by the Virgin Mother in the work of salvation under Jesus, that is fine, but so far no one over the last 500 years has found a better one. As to the doctrine itself connoted by the term, that is not mere theological opinion. It is the common teaching of the Church.
2. It is often said that promotion of the doctrine connoted by the term Co-Redemptrix serves no purpose theologically and ecumenically is counter-productive. Cardinal Newman once remarked apropos the title Mother of God that the privileges of Mary are for the sake of her Son’s glorification, The fact is, promotion of the doctrine of Marian coredemption does contribute to the final glory of Christ in the Church. In the case of the coredemption such promotion underscores exactly what is meant by the perfect redemption wrought by Jesus on the Cross: not any kind of redemption, but perfect redemption, and kind of blessedness in store for us precisely because perfect redemption is that kind of redemption which God effects through the cooperation of the Virgin Mother in the Incarnation, in the sacrifice of Calvary and of the Eucharist, and in the daily life of the Church and Christians. For this reason promotion of the doctrine is an important key to fruitful ecumenism. When all Christians find themselves one about Mary, they will find themselves no longer divided.
3. As to the unity of the Church: this is a gift of Christ to the Church, not a product of ecumenical effort. That unity already exists or there is no Church, and it is to be found, according to a most recent ecumenical Council (Vatican II) where the one Mystical Body of Christ subsists, in the Roman Catholic Church. As to the unity of Christians, that is another matter. Whether single persons or groups of Christians, that unity can certainly be perfected, and it is precisely this which the promotion of Mary among all believers will benefit.
And they claim that Mormons are pagans...
I don't care what they say, no Martian is going to co-redeem me!
It is not Church Doctrine that Mary is Co-Redemptorist. Are you starting a petition?? Mary is to be revered and honored....not worshipped.....do you agree?
Hell will have many well dressed and auspicious residents :)
Wideawake, the total ignoring or embracing of modern attacks on the Bible in the ancient churches sometimes infuriates me. (I also notice no one gives a tinker's d@mn if Fundamentalist Protestants are offended by something.)
So, I'm supposed to believe that Mary is the Sister of Jesus, cast demons into lakes, walked on walked on water, fed the multitute with a few loaves of bread and fish, rose the dead, AND was also sacrificed on the Cross along with Jesus, died, was buried, on the Third Day rose from the dead, was later seen by at least 500, sits on the Right Hand of the Father in Heaven?
I think I'll just continue believing in the Christian faith instead of this.