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To: vladimir998
is in the sacrificial context of Hebrews 10:3: "But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance (anamnesis) again made of sins every year."

Keep reading Hebrews 10 and you will discover what the writer of Hebrews is telling us...

"But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." -- Hebrews 10:12-14

"One sacrifice" for the sins of His people, not a perpetual mass of offering, over and over and over as if the first one had not taken effect.

You have been redeemed, Vlad. Rejoice. The offering was accepted by God. You have been acquitted of your sins by Christ standing in your place and taking on the punishment for every one of them.

62 posted on 05/07/2007 7:21:02 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
perpetual mass of offering, over and over and over as if the first one had not taken effect.

You don't "get it" at all.

It is not "as if the first one had not taken effect".

It is the first one, made present to us in our time. When a Catholic goes to Mass, it is literally equivalent to being transported back in time to Calvary, because Calvary is eternally present in eternity, and so are we.

(The same is true of the Orthodox Divine Liturgy.)

And if you understood Hebrews 9 and 10, you'd see that. And if you read the fathers, you'd see that they believe it too.

73 posted on 05/07/2007 10:37:54 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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You wrote: “Keep reading Hebrews 10 and you will discover what the writer of Hebrews is telling us...”

And that’s the same sacrifice WE’RE talking about. What is presented on the altar at Mass IS THE SAME SACRIFICE as on Golgotha. It’s not a new sacrifice. It’s the same sacrifice.

“”One sacrifice” for the sins of His people, not a perpetual mass of offering, over and over and over as if the first one had not taken effect.”

One sacrifice offered up again just as the Bible said it would be: Malachi 1:11. “For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and
there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.”

“You have been redeemed, Vlad. Rejoice. The offering was accepted by God. You have been acquitted of your sins by Christ standing in your place and taking on the punishment for every one of them.”

I know. That’s EXACTLY why I believe in Christ and His Eucharist.

I noticed how you completely ignored anamnesis. You didn’t know about that did you?


75 posted on 05/08/2007 3:10:34 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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