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To: AnalogReigns
Although it’s a sorry loophole, I believe Open Theists are even (far) more in error than devout Catholics—and these have been allowed to stay in ETS.

With a duplicitous philospher/theologian like Beckwith as their president, it is no wonder that an Open Theology heresy has been allowed to creep into the ETS.

86 posted on 05/07/2007 8:37:02 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
Again, I'd be careful about being rash in calling Beckwith duplicitous. I am not familiar with the man, but it sounds like among some I respect he has lots of respect. I'm perfectly willing to accept he's being honest in how he understands things... It's a matter of defining terms.

Let me repeat that Catholics do believe scripture alone is God's word written. They ADD to that though, that oral Tradition also contains God's word, which was subsequently passed down, interpreted and applied by Rome alone... So yes there is at least a dual, if not a triple authority...(Scripture and Tradition, or really, Scripture, Tradition, and finally the Magisterium (Scripture and Tradition, as interpreted by the current pope....).

The distortions, corruptions and inconsistencies wreaked by such a system are why the Reformation occured in he first place. One bad pope can wreak havoc...as by his authority he can preside over scripture, even while claiming fealty to it....(eg. Innocent III declaring Transubstantiation dogma....) and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Trent too was a disaster (and was not at all representative of all the Roman church either...80%+ of the delegates were Italian, and go figure since it was held in Italy...)

If ETS had said that scipture alone is God's word AND it is the final authority for the Church, inerrant in the authographs, this could have been avoided. But like I said above, ETS already failed to eject claimed "evangelicals" who openly deny plain sciptural teaching by the sophisms of Open Theology--so why not have Roman Catholics (or a few JW's or Mormons?) too?

Another group needs to become an alternative to ETS--as it really is, and has been for a while, NOT truly evangelical.

91 posted on 05/07/2007 9:06:05 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: P-Marlowe
With a duplicitous philospher/theologian like Beckwith as their president, it is no wonder that an Open Theology heresy has been allowed to creep into the ETS.

Openness theology was already in the ETS back in the mid 90s when I attended, (long before Beckwith's presidency).

-A8

98 posted on 05/07/2007 11:24:34 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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