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An emerging Christianity is reshaping faith (emergent church) (Jesus is the founder of liberalism?)
The Decatur Daily ^ | SATURDAY, APRIL 28, 2007 | James L. Evans

Posted on 05/03/2007 3:00:09 PM PDT by Terriergal

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OY! Can he gush over these CINOS any more obviously?
1 posted on 05/03/2007 3:00:11 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: WKB; Peace4EarthNow; Nightshift; WileyPink; doc1019; tutstar; trillabodilla; GrandEagle; ...
Baptist ping.

James L. Evans, a syndicated columnist, also serves as pastor of Auburn First Baptist Church.

50 bucks says it's an American Baptist affiliated church. At the very least, they are very likely NOT in the Southern Baptist fold...
2 posted on 05/03/2007 3:07:52 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: JamesP81

THe Womens ministry page on their website mentions the SBA and they are located in Auburn, Al. Can I give you my address so you send the check?


3 posted on 05/03/2007 3:18:28 PM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: Terriergal

“Emergent Christians have serious doubts about doctrinal ideas which hold that some are in and some are out — that is in or out with God.”


Serious doubts?

THAT WHICH IS NOT FAITH, IS SIN.


4 posted on 05/03/2007 3:20:37 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Augustinian monk
THe Womens ministry page on their website mentions the SBA and they are located in Auburn, Al.

I'm not familiar with this SBA, but the question was whether they are a member of the SBC...
5 posted on 05/03/2007 3:23:42 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: JamesP81

The only reference to any affiliation is on the Women’s Missionary Union page. There it alludes to both the Southern Baptists and the Conservative Baptists.


6 posted on 05/03/2007 3:26:18 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: JamesP81

And if they are SBC, whether they will be for much longer!


7 posted on 05/03/2007 3:27:27 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Terriergal

They see the movement as resurgence of old mainline liberal theology.

liberal theology = renounced as heresy by both Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI.

This mess is in the Catholic Church too.


8 posted on 05/03/2007 3:28:39 PM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Yeah you wouldn’t want to be speaking anything sharper than any two edged sword, DIVIDING things up very precisely/black and white, with these people... ya know??

Well I would, but maybe that’s just me....


9 posted on 05/03/2007 3:29:21 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

This concern has resulted in high tolerance for people of other faiths.

Jesus said, “ I am the way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by Me.”

That doesn’t sound very tolerant.


10 posted on 05/03/2007 3:35:14 PM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Terriergal
On the surface there does not seem to be anything in this list of practices that would alarm a traditional believer.

They do alarm this traditional believer. This sounds like works oriented belief. Try as they might, they cannot strain that camel through the eye of a needle.

11 posted on 05/03/2007 3:36:55 PM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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“They think it is more important to live and act in faithful ways rather than obsessing about what we should believe.”

Both are equally important.

“This concern for people and the world is not a stance related to any political party.”

They are liberal Democrats.


12 posted on 05/03/2007 3:46:01 PM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Terriergal
In fact, so great is the diversity of forms within Christianity, it may be more appropriate to refer to them in the plural — Christianities.

One wonders why he doesn't become part of the Emerging church movement? There has always been ONE faith and view of God. Every view that does not conform to this one view is corruption and heresy. It is our job to seek out the correct view of God and discard the rest.

He should read Pilgrim Progress.

13 posted on 05/03/2007 3:50:08 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Terriergal

What is this? Another form of religious socialism brewing? Liberal theology refers to which: the fairly benign 19th century liberalization movement; or the 20th century "liberation theology" bastardization of scripture to hew to Marxist ideology? Hard to tell exactly how bad this is judging only from this article full of rump kissing.

14 posted on 05/03/2007 3:50:55 PM PDT by M203M4 (Constitutional Republic has a nice ring to it - alas, it's incompatible with the communist manifesto)
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To: DarthVader; Terriergal; JamesP81

There is an enormous difference between forced worship of a particular god or God ... and God’s own express, specific and narrow road of redemption that the Bible says is the only way to Heaven.

I don’t condemn you for whatever god or God you worship. God is the Judge and unforgiven sin is what results in condemnation. Yet God is not willing that any should perish....

Tolerance in a medical context, BTW, is how much toxin a body can survive.


15 posted on 05/03/2007 3:52:28 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: DarthVader

The whole other-faiths thing... I think a lot of these lib-Christians are uncomfortable with the idea of some kid in Muslim-dominated Africa who’s never even heard Christ’s name dying and going to hell because he never joined up with the One True Faith. And take the example of what Dante called the “virtuous pagans.” The people who don’t believe as we do but who are upstanding citizens of the world anyhow. They’re just like us, stumbling through this life and looking for fulfillment - but are all the decent non-Christians of the world going to be damned forever solely because they weren’t washed in the blood of the Lamb? That’s what I think gets the lib-Christians riled up.

All I can say about the virtuous pagans is to let God worry about them. Not a sparrow falls... right? (And if you’re starting to wonder about my sanity after reading this post, don’t worry. So am I.)


16 posted on 05/03/2007 3:52:41 PM PDT by jakewashere (politically incorrect and proud of it since 1982)
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To: Ingtar

“This sounds like works oriented belief. Try as they might, they cannot strain that camel through the eye of a needle.”

What they fail to emphasize (maybe because they no longer believe it) is that works without faith are meaningless, just as faith without works is moribund.

IMHO, faith and works are both important attributes of the Christian life.


17 posted on 05/03/2007 3:55:28 PM PDT by jakewashere (politically incorrect and proud of it since 1982)
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To: jakewashere

“I think a lot of these lib-Christians are uncomfortable with the idea of some kid in Muslim-dominated Africa who’s never even heard Christ’s name dying and going to hell because he never joined up with the One True Faith.”

There are lots of conservative Christians who are missionarys there helping these poor kids and lots like me who send them money to buy them food and give them a better life and share with them God’s love in a very substantive manner. Liberals do not have the market cornered on compassion and concern.

“They’re just like us, stumbling through this life and looking for fulfillment - but are all the decent non-Christians of the world going to be damned forever solely because they weren’t washed in the blood of the Lamb? That’s what I think gets the lib-Christians riled up.”

They have a faith based upon feelings and no amount of good works will save any of us. The Word tells us “by faith you have been saved by grace which is gift from God, not by works so no man may boast.”

All I can say about the virtuous pagans is to let God worry about them. Not a sparrow falls... right? (And if you’re starting to wonder about my sanity after reading this post, don’t worry. So am I.)

I believe God is just and merciful and He takes care of the innocent victim, weak, downtrodden and dying. Many of these kids know nothing but misery and they are the victims of evil selfish men in these countries who have heard the Gospel and know better.


18 posted on 05/03/2007 4:07:56 PM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Terriergal
The emphasis here for emergent Christians is on serving and being generous. They think it is more important to live and act in faithful ways rather than obsessing about what we should believe.

No they don't. They just talk about it and try to get others to be generous. All their money goes towards movie admissions, coffee and beer. They live and act like a bunch of people impressed with themeselves. When it comes down to actually caring about actual people, they don't. In fact they hate them in the worst way. They help them into hell.

19 posted on 05/03/2007 4:08:00 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Good point about tolerance. :-)

We are commanded to be patient, forebearing and forgiving which the libs try to sell as tolerance.


20 posted on 05/03/2007 4:12:21 PM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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