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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Let’s read it again.
5:1 ¶ And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
Deu 5:2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
Deu 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, [even] us, who [are] all of us here alive this day.

The COVENANT. The ten commandments were incorporated INTO the COVENANT, the agreement, between the Lord and Israel.

But again, as the article points out, the violation of these COMMANDMENTS were considered sins BEFORE the covenant was ratified. Read the article.

74 posted on 04/21/2007 12:25:44 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
"the violation of these COMMANDMENTS were considered sins BEFORE the covenant was ratified."

They were not commandments, before they were commanded, therefore not subject to violation. Sin did occur before the Commandments were given and acts which were unrighteous included those mentioned in the commandments.

Here is another interpretation of the same issue from over a century ago.

Verses 4-9. He makes a contrast between sin and the new nature and shows the marks of one who abides in Christ and one who hath not seen Him neither knows Him. "Every one that practiseth sin, practiseth lawlessness; for sin is lawlessness, this is the correct rendering. The definition of sin as "transgression of the law" is misleading and incorrect. Before there ever was a law, sin was in the world (Romans 5:12, etc.); how then can sin be the transgression of the law? It is not sins of which John speaks, but sin, the evil nature of man. Here the apostle regards man as doing nothing else but his own, natural will; he lives as a natural man. He acts independently of God, and, as far as he is concerned, never does anything but his own will. John is, therefore, not speaking. of positive overt acts, but of the natural man's habitual bent and character, his life and nature.

Arno Gaebelein 1861-1942 "THE FIRST EPISTLE OF JOHN" Chap IV

75 posted on 04/21/2007 12:43:05 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: DouglasKC

***But again, as the article points out, the violation of these COMMANDMENTS were considered sins BEFORE the covenant was ratified. Read the article.***

Deu 12:8 Ye shall not do after all [the things] that we do here this day, every man whatsoever [is] right in his own eyes.


77 posted on 04/21/2007 2:23:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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