Posted on 04/18/2007 1:57:05 PM PDT by kawaii
thoughts? pings?
THANKS
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i’m actually vaguely interested in your own thoughts on cremation...
Well I’m no fan of cremation, but I don’t think that it would prohibit you from entering into heaven. Think about all of the people killed in fires that don’t have a choice about being cremated.
Cremation used to be forbidden for Catholics, too. One of the (many evil) fruits of Vatican II was that this became permissible. However, there are restrictions: the ashes are supposed to be buried, not kept in a locket, or on your TV, or scattered, etc. Our bishop has written several letters encouraging people to choose burial, and pointing out that cremation is permitted only if for some reason there is a necessity for it. Like everything else after Vatican II, this then became a general permission.
I want to have my coffin brought into the church, spend the night before the altar, and be buried properly after a funeral mass. That said, the current Catholic funeral stinks. The old one was beautiful, but the most beautiful of all is the Orthodox one (Beholding the Sea of Life, etc.). I’m Byzantine rite, and I’m hoping to hold out long enough to see reunion between the Orthodox and Rome so that I can be buried with the Orthodox rite...But if the worst happens and I don’t make it that far, I will rise up and haunt anybody who subjects me to the indignities of “On Eagles Wings” or any of the other Catholic happy face garbage that’s out there.
They are basically very consistent with the article.
I’m not interested in copying the pagans and wish to copy my Lord Jesus every way I can.
I appreciate the article. I often lack something of any substance to give folks who ask me about it.
The first thing I thought of when I read the above is the scene from the movie version of Return of the King (it's also in the book) where the steward Denethor said, "We will burn, like the heathens kings of old."
Hmmmm.
Is there a relationship with your screen name?
LOL.
Note to self: Don’t buy any home previously inhabited by livius (unless he gets the funeral he wants). :-)
LOL!
LOL! Unless you can smell the incense and see wax from the tapers, stay away!
“thoughts?”
Sure; I agree.
***1Cr 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed [the poor], and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.***
And what about these?
(Christians blamed for burning Rome)
...Therefore, first those were seized who admitted their faith, and then, using the information they provided, a vast multitude not so much for the crime of burning the city, but for hatred of the human race. And perishing they were additionally made into sports: they were killed by dogs by having the hides of beasts attached to them, or they were nailed to crosses or set aflame, and, when the daylight passed away, they were used as nighttime lamps. Nero gave his own gardens for this spectacle and performed a Circus game, in the habit of a charioteer mixing with the plebs or driving about the race-course. -—Tacitus
There is nothing pretty about rotting bodies. Worms crawling through you and protruding from all the orifices, and fungus mushrooming out of your eyeballs and skin is hardly a dignified sight. Of course we don't see that.
Bodies must not be intentionally mutilated. But that's quite different from a dignified cremation, made in reverence for the departed.
I agree that remains should not be kept on furniture, but given a Christian burial.
**I often lack something of any substance to give folks who ask me about it.**
I’ll offer some.
The physical body of the Lord Jesus did not ‘suffer corruption’.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, so is the way for the rest of us.
(unless one is still alive when ‘in a twinkling of an eye’.......)
Vanity is in the funeral details. I’ve told my family: Do only what is required by guv’mint. Spend as little as possible.
Jesus didn’t put a great deal of emphasis on attending funerals, unless there was someone that he chose to awaken from ‘sleep’.
Early Greek NT manuscripts say "a body to give to glory" [kauchswmai], and not "to be burned" [kauyhswmai]. The difference of one letter appears in Textus Receptus, and is obviously a latter-day copying error by someone who didnt know Greek.
Textus Receptus, full of similar errors, metastasized to find home in the King James version and practically every western Bible — invariably leading to a faulty understanding of the scripture, and assuming — as in this case — that the Bible says it's okay to cremate bodies, whence the Protestants got their idea that it's okay to do so.
Amen.
Vanity is in the funeral details
You speak my mind. Thank you.
Funerals are overrated. Compost my body and plant a tree, hindend up of course so all the folks who never cared before can kiss it.
Agree! I don’t want a funeral myself. They’re morbid to me and I wouldn’t put my family through such a process.
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