No surprise here. I emailed Bishop Adamec, 2 years ago, with a complaint that one of his churches was using ceramic and glass sacred vessels which was strictly against the GIRM.
And the Blessed Sacrament was no where to be scene but the King's Chair sat right in the middle, top of the altar where the Blessed Sacrament should have been.
The local priest looked like Henry VIII.
1 posted on
04/16/2007 11:26:43 AM PDT by
franky1
To: franky1
The Most Reverend Joseph Victor Adamec was born on August 13, 1935
Seems like a long time until 2010.
SS. Cyril and Methodius, pray for us.
2 posted on
04/16/2007 11:38:27 AM PDT by
siunevada
(If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
To: franky1
He said the Tridentine rite is only a concession to the Lefebvrites, and there is no need for it here because that situation does not exist here. Adamec said a Latin Mass could be made available [referring to the Novus Ordo with some Latin], but if the Tridentine rite is offered, it is a different rite, and you have to go back to the old forms of spirituality that went with it. He also said you have to go back to the old forms of sacraments, fasting and other aspects. I'm really trying to be charitable here, but His Excellency is really pushing it. TLM is not a concession to the Lefebvrites...it was in fact NEVER abolished, as the Vatican has admitted.
Yes it is a different rite. So what. Is there some law against a different rite I'm not aware of?
This attitude is simply infuriating.
3 posted on
04/16/2007 12:00:42 PM PDT by
Claud
To: franky1
He said the Tridentine rite is only a concession to the Lefebvrites, and there is no need for it here because that situation does not exist here.So who is worse? Adamec or Trautman?
4 posted on
04/16/2007 12:04:25 PM PDT by
Petronski
(FRED!)
To: franky1; All
Adamec said a Latin Mass could be made available [referring to the Novus Ordo with some Latin], but if the Tridentine rite is offered, it is a different rite, and you have to go back to the old forms of spirituality that went with it. He also said you have to go back to the old forms of sacraments, fasting and other aspects Can anyone elaborate what "old forms of spirituality... sacraments" means?
I do understand the current (NO) fasting aspect, which seems very relaxed to us Eastern Orthodox.
My other question is: wh is the Tridentine Rite Mass aparently treated as some sort of "leper" rite? Surely, it was part of the Church history it is considered 'valid.'
Orthodox churches normally use the 1,600-year-old Divine Liturgy of Sain John Chrysostom, but on 14 occasions in one calendar year the Divine Liturgy of Saint Basil the Great (which is a little longer than the former) is served.
As far as I know, there is no freedom to choose which one will be served.
Wouldn't it be possible to integrate the Trindentine and NO Mass in a similar manner? In other words, serve the NO Mass most of the year and the Tridentine Mass on special feasts?
5 posted on
04/16/2007 1:33:24 PM PDT by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: franky1
Actually, the Traditional Latin Mass is not a "separate rite." Although the new Mass is quite different in a number of ways, technically, it is a different
form of the same rite.
The document to be published supposedly makes this point clearly: the TLM is the extraordinary form of the Latin Rite; the Mass of Paul VI is the ordinary form thereof.
I am hoping the motu proprio is published soon. The freeing of the TLM is long overdue.
16 posted on
04/17/2007 7:25:07 AM PDT by
B Knotts
(Anybody but Guliani!)
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