Posted on 04/16/2007 8:49:43 AM PDT by Salvation
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Funny the author doesn't mention the fact that often the Vatican paid pennies on the dollar and extracted sizable offerings from the superstitious peasants so that popes and cardinals could live in "sumptuous churches". The world is still awaiting the time when the Vatican throws open the vaults and let people have a look at all their "treasure".
Your post seems a little bit negative toward Catholic art. But as I said above — and interesting comparison and history.
I guess I might ask the question “Does your church display any sacred art of any kind? Even a cross? Even a picture of Christ? Curious as to why or why not.
Where did you learn that...?
It’s a bit ironic to read a Catholic take on sacred art given the truly awful Catholic contributions over the past 40 years or so.
Not that Protestants haven’t had their moments but we generally have fewer crude felt banners. LOL!
1 Thes. 5:15 Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else.
That's not a Christian tradition...It's a pagan tradition that goes back well beyond 1500 years...
The Christian tradition according to God is 'do not build statues or icons'...
The scripture teaches us to contemplate holy images so that we may be tranformed by them:
whom he foreknew, he also predestinated to be made conformable to the image [lit. icon] of his Son (Rom 8:29)as we have borne the image of the earthly, let us bear also the image [icon] of the heavenly (1 Cor 15:49)
who hath bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been set forth, crucified among you? (Gal. 3:1)
I would have to agree with the amateurish banners.
However, I think the article is addressing the display of truly artistic renditions.
Can you explain the “pagan tradition”? Imagine you quoting a tradition???
Thanks for those references found in Holy Scripture.
Art kind of died after the Impressionists anyway.
Being Catholic: Sacred Things, [New] Fire, Paschal Candle
Being Catholic: Sacred Things, Holy Oils
Being Catholic: Sacred Things, Crucifixes and Crosses
Being Catholic: Sacred Things, Sacred Images: Statues and Other Icons
whom he foreknew, he also predestinated to be made conformable to the image [lit. icon] of his Son (Rom 8:29)
as we have borne the image of the earthly, let us bear also the image [icon] of the heavenly (1 Cor 15:49)
who hath bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been set forth, crucified among you? (Gal. 3:1)
You are really reachin' if you are trying to convince someone these references are to 'icons'...
Here's some real references...
Num 33:52 Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images and quite pluck down all their high places:
Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Isa 2:8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:
Isa 2:12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
Isa 2:16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures.
Isa 2:18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.
Isa 2:20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;
Isa 2:21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
You might really like those idols, icons and images...But God doesn't think too much of them...
Act 19:24 For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen;
Act 19:25 Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said, Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.
Act 19:26 Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:
Act 19:27 So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at naught; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.
Act 19:35 And when the town clerk had appeased the people, he said, Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshiper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?
Hmmm...Apparitions of the Queen of Heaven...
http://www.answers.com/topic/idolatry
The internet is full of articles and information on pagan idol worship...
That is the word the Greek original uses, "eikona". But for our purpose "image" is sufficient since we are not discussing only the veneration of icons but more broadly the use of holy images.
It is true that Mosaic law forbids making or veneration of images. So?
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