I pinged people way back at the beginning on the subject. Somehow it seems that moving vans, luggage and penguins are being discussed.
Please, people, do this other stuff on a chat thread! Just my opinion.
The thread was dead for two weeks -- no postings at all. We're here, and not only because the thread was inactive (we generally prefer Zot threads), but we were actually invited to move here for the month.
I have no doubt the thread will be moved shortly to Chat. UT threads usually are.