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To: topcat54; Uncle Chip; Lee N. Field; Cvengr; Frumanchu
"the fact is that you have a set of assumptions that many folks cannot buy hook, line, and sinker, and when you are asked about them you resort to obfuscation and other diversion tactics."

There you go again. You constantly bloviate with these accusations, rather than discuss rationally what has been presented, that always demolishes your position. There is no way to debate anything with you.

"NATO! Wholly cow. Last week it was the G8 and before that it was the EU and 30 years ago it was the Common Market."

Nice smoke screen, but common markets don't go to war. NATO has been the military wing of the Roman empire for almost as long as I have been alive, and their reach continues to extend, now even into the Baltic states, so any major military excursion on planet earth will most likely be carried out by them.

"Just out of curiosity, how many people have to die and have their blood shed so that it comes “up to the horses' bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs” (Rev. 14:20)?"

Why don't you just come out and say that you don't believe God's word? Skip the frivolous, derrisive, condescending quips, and come out of the closet.

97 posted on 04/16/2007 11:54:19 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Uncle Chip; Lee N. Field; Cvengr; Frumanchu
Welcome to the big leagues.

Nice smoke screen, but common markets don't go to war. NATO has been the military wing of the Roman empire for almost

Roman Empire??? This is the 21st century, isn't it? Where is the emperor and senate for this "Roman Empire"?

“In spite of the vain striving of man, of the bold and infamous conquerors throughout the ages who failed in their human attempts, we are beginning to see the Ancient Roman Empire draw together, just as predicted... We believe that the Common Market and the trend toward unification in Europe may well be the beginning of the ten-nation confederacy predicted by Daniel and the Book of Revelation... In spite of those who propose the alternatives to the United States of Europe, and the temporary setbacks it appears to have, it seems that the trend is ever onward... At about 1980 we may fully expect the great fusion of all economic, military, and political communities into the United States of Europe... Imagine that. A "ten-nation economic entity." Is it any wonder that men who have studied prophecy for many years believe that the basic beginning of the unification of Europe has begun?”

Hal Lindsey, The Late Great Planet Earth, pp. 96-97

“We believe that the Common Market and the trend toward unification of Europe may well be the beginning of the ten-nation confederacy predicted by Daniel and the Book of Revelation... 'At about 1980 we may fully expect the great fusion of all economic, military, and political communities together into the United States of Europe.'”

Ibid, p. 96

“When I wrote that in Late Great, the only possible successor to the Roman Empire (in my opinion) was the European Common Market. But a decade ago, that organization had just six member nations, not the 10 the Bible forecast. In 1979, Greece became the 10th member of the Common Market. Recently, the Common Market went beyond its original economic and trade functions and elected a parliament. This move will eventually fulfill the Common Market's long range goal - to unify its members into a single political body.”

Hal Lindsey, The 1980's: Countdown to Armageddon , p. 15

(May be a bit before your time.)

The Roman Empire is long gone. It was defeated by the Kingdom of Jesus Christ and will never be revived. That's actually what the Word of God says; “And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.” (Dan. 2:44).

Why don't you just come out and say that you don't believe God's word? Skip the frivolous, derrisive, condescending quips, and come out of the closet.

Is this the way you attempt to engage in dialog? By accusing others who disagree with your hard-to-believe eschatology of not believing God’s Word? Sad.

The questions may seem frivolous to you, esp. when you have no answers, but they are not intended to be frivolous.

If you don't have any literalist answer to hard questions, just say so.

Face is, you have no direct answers to hard question about your theories. And when folks ask hard question you run for the tall grass.

100 posted on 04/16/2007 1:27:59 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Light beer is the devil’s beverage.")
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To: editor-surveyor; topcat54; Lee N. Field; jude24; Frumanchu; TomSmedley; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; ...
You constantly bloviate

You're fairly new to these most recent discussions that have been going on for a few weeks now.

And everything considered, they've been pretty calm. Let's continue to discuss the topics and not elevate this to personal attacks.

103 posted on 04/16/2007 1:52:05 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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