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To: editor-surveyor; Uncle Chip; Lee N. Field; Cvengr; Frumanchu
Welcome to the big leagues.

Nice smoke screen, but common markets don't go to war. NATO has been the military wing of the Roman empire for almost

Roman Empire??? This is the 21st century, isn't it? Where is the emperor and senate for this "Roman Empire"?

“In spite of the vain striving of man, of the bold and infamous conquerors throughout the ages who failed in their human attempts, we are beginning to see the Ancient Roman Empire draw together, just as predicted... We believe that the Common Market and the trend toward unification in Europe may well be the beginning of the ten-nation confederacy predicted by Daniel and the Book of Revelation... In spite of those who propose the alternatives to the United States of Europe, and the temporary setbacks it appears to have, it seems that the trend is ever onward... At about 1980 we may fully expect the great fusion of all economic, military, and political communities into the United States of Europe... Imagine that. A "ten-nation economic entity." Is it any wonder that men who have studied prophecy for many years believe that the basic beginning of the unification of Europe has begun?”

Hal Lindsey, The Late Great Planet Earth, pp. 96-97

“We believe that the Common Market and the trend toward unification of Europe may well be the beginning of the ten-nation confederacy predicted by Daniel and the Book of Revelation... 'At about 1980 we may fully expect the great fusion of all economic, military, and political communities together into the United States of Europe.'”

Ibid, p. 96

“When I wrote that in Late Great, the only possible successor to the Roman Empire (in my opinion) was the European Common Market. But a decade ago, that organization had just six member nations, not the 10 the Bible forecast. In 1979, Greece became the 10th member of the Common Market. Recently, the Common Market went beyond its original economic and trade functions and elected a parliament. This move will eventually fulfill the Common Market's long range goal - to unify its members into a single political body.”

Hal Lindsey, The 1980's: Countdown to Armageddon , p. 15

(May be a bit before your time.)

The Roman Empire is long gone. It was defeated by the Kingdom of Jesus Christ and will never be revived. That's actually what the Word of God says; “And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.” (Dan. 2:44).

Why don't you just come out and say that you don't believe God's word? Skip the frivolous, derrisive, condescending quips, and come out of the closet.

Is this the way you attempt to engage in dialog? By accusing others who disagree with your hard-to-believe eschatology of not believing God’s Word? Sad.

The questions may seem frivolous to you, esp. when you have no answers, but they are not intended to be frivolous.

If you don't have any literalist answer to hard questions, just say so.

Face is, you have no direct answers to hard question about your theories. And when folks ask hard question you run for the tall grass.

100 posted on 04/16/2007 1:27:59 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Light beer is the devil’s beverage.")
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To: topcat54; Uncle Chip; Lee N. Field; Cvengr
"Roman Empire???

Yes, this is the final days of the Roman empire. Being a preterist, that is one of the plain facts that you are unable to come to grips with. Read up on it in Daniel. It's the final stage of man's rule here on earth.

Wake-up call: I'm not Hal Lindsey. If you wish to discuss his ideas, discuss them with him.

"The Roman Empire is long gone. It was defeated by the Kingdom of Jesus Christ and will never be revived."

That's coming,as I indicated in the post to which you replied. Again, preterism is a satanic stumbling block to the understanding of God's word.

"The questions may seem frivolous to you, esp. when you have no answers, but they are not intended to be frivolous"

No, they're frivolous, and an attempt to diffuse the rebuttal of your vacuous anti-prophecy 'eschatology.' - I gave you the answer to each of your evasionary questions, but your strategy is to ignore all answers. Here's one more for you to ignore:
The EU may well end up being the ten nation confederacy (i.e. the final thrust of the Roman iron and clay empire) but if it does, then they will break NATO and form their own unit, but so far that has not been economically possible because the US is the only robust and viable economy in the west, so they have been dependant on our largesse. We could be that nation mentioned in Jacob's blessing on Joseph's seed. It never appeared in Biblical times, and that prophecy must still come to pass, but I can't claim to know the answer to that.

104 posted on 04/16/2007 2:01:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: topcat54; editor-surveyor
The Roman Empire is long gone. It was defeated by the Kingdom of Jesus Christ and will never be revived.

So then the Roman Catholic Church is the true church? Because as the Empire fell apart, the RCC rose to power. Is that what you claim?

That's actually what the Word of God says; “And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.” (Dan. 2:44).

The Roman Empire only had one king: The Emperor. So just who were "these kings"?

114 posted on 04/16/2007 3:16:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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