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To: Alex Murphy; topcat54; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

As mentioned to TC on a different thread, when one is so focused on building the kingdom here on earth, it gets easier and easier to “spiritualize” the return of Christ, and especially since everything else has already been spiritualized.

I would say that post-millennialism is a great danger to post-mil Christians.

That aside, though, I can certainly see how preterism is a HERETICAL danger that will easily betray post-mil Christians.


7 posted on 04/10/2007 10:40:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; topcat54; Dr. Eckleburg
The problem here, Xzins, is that there are no legitimate concerns raised by the Englesma article. Badly misrepresenting an opponent in order to score debate points, i.e. charging heresy where none exists, is the only "legitimate concern" that I see needing to be raised here.
13 posted on 04/10/2007 10:49:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
Preterism holds that the time of Jesus' second coming (Greek: parousia) was A.D. 70. (Engelsma)

Do you know anyone on this board or in person who holds to this view?

Oh, don't get me wrong, there are a few. In fact, the Reconstructionist Chalcedon Report and orthodox preterist Ken Gentry have written volumes againt this form of preterism, which they call the Hymenaen heresy.

Engelsma knows this, which makes his tome far less important than it could be.

15 posted on 04/10/2007 10:50:06 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: xzins; Alex Murphy; topcat54; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
I would say that post-millennialism is a great danger to post-mil Christians.

I would say you are wrong. An eagerness to proclaim that Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords is the heart of our evangel. The proclamation of a Jesus who confines His work to "the heart" lobotomized and emasculated evangelical Christianity over the course of the last century. If all I want is a "personal spiritual adviser," I can go visit Madam Rose the tea leaf reader. For a few extra dollars, she'll even throw in a few extra thrills.

Discovering that Jesus is Lord over the universe around me as well as the "universe" within me was truly liberating, transforming my walk with God, my family, my vocation, and my effectiveness as a Christian. You might say the proclamation the "Jesus is Lord" (not "will be any day now," but is) can restore the Christian man's mind, and balls. Let me cite G. K. Chesterton's rollicking rebuttal to the value of mere mysticism, from his book Orthodoxy:

My soul is far safer in the keeping of my Lord, than it was when I sought a cosmic guru.
44 posted on 04/10/2007 11:55:03 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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