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Mass Appeal (Confessions of an unrepentant church shopper)
National Review ^ | 4/5/2007 | Jennifer Graham

Posted on 04/05/2007 12:54:38 PM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: VeritatisSplendor

LOL, How can “Jesus Remember Me” be a closing hymn? It never ends!

(Actually it might be good for Maundy Thursday, HEY, that’s tonight! I gotta get to Mass.)


21 posted on 04/05/2007 3:04:40 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: santangel

But our dressing nicely when we go to church is to say, God, I honor you.

Doesn’t have to be fancy, but dressing like God matters is what it reflects.

Dressing like someone just threw something on when theyu have time to choose something a little better can say a lot about that person’s attitude towards coming to church to meet someone who is King of the Universe.

Most of us wouldn’t dress in highly casual clothes to talk to our bosses much less a dignitary, because it shows lack of respect.

But for some reason, we don’t think God deserves this type of respect.


22 posted on 04/05/2007 3:11:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Pyro7480

Aesthete.


23 posted on 04/05/2007 3:56:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: santangel

I totally understand what you are saying and I couldn’t agree more. However,I’m not sure I like the idea of a church of naked people....YUCK.

All these comments about outward appearances is disturbing and sad. So many believe that going to church every Sunday is your ticket into heaven. That is not what Jesus taught. He said He is the only way, truth and life. I go to church to get rejuiced, to get refreshed in God’s word.

When I was looking for a church, I didn’t “look” at the people or even the building. I wanted a church that taught directly from God’s word and where I felt I could be authentic in my worship and with people who were genuiune and real. I wanted a Pastor who encouraged us to know Jesus on a personal level. God wants us to know him, not just pretend our salvation is secure because we happen to set foot into a building.


24 posted on 04/05/2007 4:08:00 PM PDT by CANBFORGIVEN (! Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Pyro7480

Amen to all of the comments of this witty lady.


25 posted on 04/05/2007 5:56:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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To: lastchance
I agree, and I love this observation of yours:

Poor dear the moment she finds the perfect parish it will become imperfect the day she joins.

I am so grateful to be at Mass every Sunday (and occasionally on a weekday), that I wouldn't care if the rest of the congregation was wearing tutus and singing doo-wop Gospel music, or wearing ao-dais and chanting in Vietnamese. I don't care if we're meeting in Notre Dame or in the Community Room at the public library.

I just want to be with Jesus, and with the brothers and sisters of my congregation, whom I love. They don't put me down when my son yells, "Father! Tell James to give me back my number-beeber!" during the offertory, and I'm not going to get in a fluff over their tastes in clothing and music.

26 posted on 04/05/2007 7:09:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Miss Marple
Well, my family and I have always joked when we attend Roman Catholic churches with friend or relatives that the parishioners use back in parking so that they can zoom away faster. My kids have always called it “Catholic parking”.
27 posted on 04/05/2007 7:10:23 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Bainbridge

I do have one pet peeve. Those who think that the service is better when you sit at the end of the pews. I have a feeling this is not unique to the Catholic Church. These people refuse to move in and you have to step over them as best you can. Lord forbid they scoot in 2 feet to make room. Obviously the ushers plan on giving out gift baskets to those who perservere at the end of the pew.

These I can assure you are the very ones who back into parking spaces. They are a bit put off that God should require anything over 60 minutes of their Sunday. I have to be honest sometimes I am not at all graceful when going past them and my foot slips. OOPS SORRY.


28 posted on 04/05/2007 7:16:47 PM PDT by lastchance
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To: ichabod1
Unfortunately the Catholic tradition of singing has been lost in most parishes.

Most of the congregation are afraid to sing, and it's like pulling teeth to get people into the choir. And when they get there, they're still afraid to sing. We have 14 sopranos and you can't hear most of them.

You need at least one staff singer per part. Two if there's not a strong volunteer in that section.

I'm persistently recruiting singers from our former ECUSA parish. We need 'em badly!

29 posted on 04/05/2007 7:19:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Bainbridge

Hey, ya gotta beat the Baptists to the Waffle House! < g >


30 posted on 04/05/2007 7:20:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Pyro7480
Bears repeating!

Every parish has a group of diehard complainers. Find the positive and get involved. The best way to effect change is to become active. Your idea may be one that had never been considered before. Best of all, you become part of the community, sharing your God given abilities with others who can benefit.

Kudos on an excellent post!

31 posted on 04/05/2007 7:27:25 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Rich people dress to go to church like they are going to the gym. Poor folks dress in their Sunday best.


32 posted on 04/05/2007 7:32:49 PM PDT by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow.)
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To: Tax-chick

yes, but is it too much to ask that the usher not cut his fingernails during the Eucharistic prayer?


33 posted on 04/05/2007 7:33:46 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat (Kyrie eleison)
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To: Nihil Obstat

I missed that :-).


34 posted on 04/05/2007 7:41:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: AnAmericanMother
We have 14 sopranos

Our entire choir is 12 people - 3 for each part. Yet, we are singing Perosi's Missa Pontificalis for Easter.

35 posted on 04/05/2007 8:09:47 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS
They WON'T sing and they WON'T try (it's very frustrating). We have a choirmaster who is immensely learned and a very patient teacher, who never loses his temper with them. But they will NOT sing! They also don't study their parts or take rehearsal seriously. Fortunately our men are VERY strong now, and the altos hold up their end. I think our choirmaster is going to get another staff soprano. Then maybe they'll sing . . .

These are mostly 50ish women who went through the whole VCII no-choir era and I guess never were exposed to good music.

I can't imagine not trying my best to the glory of God . . . but I was trained in a very hard school (first an Episcopal Cathedral choir school for boys and girls, then in a top flight parish choir that sang at Spoleto several years and made recordings.)

36 posted on 04/05/2007 8:28:38 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Tax-chick
Aesthete: one having or affecting sensitivity to the beautiful especially in art

Guilty as charged. :-P Everyone shoul seek the True, the Good, and the Beautiful.

37 posted on 04/05/2007 9:17:25 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Our two new priests are very good. Not as good as the orthodox one 3 priests ago, but good.

Tonight a put a suggestion in the suggestion box about people should not be applauding at/after Mass. We’re there to worship the Lord not for a concert.


38 posted on 04/05/2007 9:18:42 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: ichabod1

Our Lady of Walsingham?


39 posted on 04/05/2007 9:25:38 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Pyro7480

Thanks for the post. Bring on the converts!


40 posted on 04/05/2007 11:45:43 PM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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