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More Evidence Pius XII Was Not Hitler's Pope - German Files Point to a Russian Plot
Zenit News Agency ^ | April 2, 2007

Posted on 04/03/2007 2:32:00 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, APRIL 2, 2007 (Zenit.org).- Adolf Hitler's No. 1 enemy was the Vatican's secretary of state, Eugenio Pacelli, future Pope Pius XII, according to documents recently found in Europe.

In an article published last Thursday by La Repubblica, reporter Marco Ansaldo announced that he has a dossier on Pius XII that complements documentation found in the Vatican Archives.

According to the newly discovered documents, Pius XII was considered an enemy of the Third Reich. Memos and letters unearthed at a depot used by the Stasi, the East German secret police, show that Nazi spies within the Vatican were concerned at the Pope's efforts to help displaced Poles and Jews.

One document from the head of Berlin's police force tells Joachim von Ribbentrop, the Third Reich's foreign minister, that the Catholic Church was providing assistance to Jews "both in terms of people and financially."

Russia's motives

In a commentary on the new documents, Sister Margherita Marchione, author and expert on Pius XII, explains the campaign against the Pope was the work of the Soviets.

"Russia's plans were to control Europe after the war. The only outspoken obstacle to Russia's plan in Europe was the Catholic Church," Sister Marchione wrote.

"The first attacks claiming that the Church had endorsed silently the atrocities of the Nazis came from Communist Russia," she explained. "Soon to control Poland, and other vast areas in Eastern Europe, Russia saw the need to break the loyalty to the Pope of Catholic majorities in those countries.

"The plan was a simple one: convince everyone that the Pope supported the hated Nazis during the war and, therefore, neither he nor the Church could be trusted after the war. The destruction of the Church would leave the field wide open for Russian influence and control."


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Judaism; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; bigotry; catholic; germany; hitler; nazis; piusxii; prejudice; revisionism; sanitized
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To: Alex Murphy
Then I suggest you cancel your E-ZPass, unless you're going to continue using it.

You're trying to shut me up?

701 posted on 04/12/2007 1:38:59 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Titanites
See post #637.

Yes, I saw it. Thanks. It cleared up a mystery for me.
702 posted on 04/12/2007 1:39:42 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Petronski
You're trying to shut me up?

No, just suggesting that you not take the same highway that you've criticized others for building.

703 posted on 04/12/2007 1:41:27 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Petronski
Please stop making this personal. Your personal insults of other FReepers only shows the vacuousness of your argument.

If you cannot discuss the topic without snide invectives, you're not giving lurkers a very good portrait of your beliefs.

704 posted on 04/12/2007 1:41:56 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Titanites
I think so. I would certainly want to be involved with how my book was presented, if I ever wrote one.

I don't think it works that way.
705 posted on 04/12/2007 1:42:26 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
By your side's own admission, Pacelli had read "Mein Kampf." If he knew what Hitler planned for the Jews, then this supposed temporary "elimination of the Catholic Church in the Reich" would have been a small price to pay to save so many lives. Unless of course Pacelli thought Hitler was going to win.

Excellent Point.

706 posted on 04/12/2007 1:43:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Petronski
Your little anti-Catholic trolling team there has ignored plenty of requests for proof. Shall I now be expected to be at your beck and call?

No. You are doing exactly what I expected from you - making empty claims - throwing dirt into the wind - bloviating.
707 posted on 04/12/2007 1:47:24 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: OLD REGGIE

Old Reggie, I meant to post 695 to you and was referencing your copy of the book which appears exactly like mine.


708 posted on 04/12/2007 1:48:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Please stop making this personal.

You first. This entire thread is an affront to Catholics, myself included.

709 posted on 04/12/2007 1:49:51 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg
This entire thread is an affront to Catholics, myself included.

If you really feel that way, maybe you should stick to the closed "Catholic Caucus" threads wherein no one will be an affront to you.

711 posted on 04/12/2007 1:52:20 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
No, just suggesting that you not take the same highway that you've criticized others for building.

Your solution is to offer no defense at all. I suspect Team Cornwell would love to spread their propaganda unchecked.

I have endeavored to make the record clear about Cornwell's lies, and fully expect to continue to do so, including discussions about defamatory motives.

712 posted on 04/12/2007 1:53:16 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Alex Murphy

So this poison can stand unchallenged?

Riiiiight.


713 posted on 04/12/2007 1:54:27 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: OLD REGGIE
...making empty claims - throwing dirt into the wind - bloviating.

How autobiographical of you.

714 posted on 04/12/2007 1:56:00 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
...Pacelli engineered the passage of the Enabling Act of 1933.

Still incapable of offering proof of this, eh? Perhaps a trip to the KGB archives will help you whip something up.

715 posted on 04/12/2007 1:57:52 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Petronski
Your solution is to offer no defense at all.

No, that wasn't my solution.

716 posted on 04/12/2007 2:04:50 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Petronski; Uncle Chip; OLD REGGIE; Alex Murphy; wmfights; blue-duncan

Freshmen high school texts make the same claim. It’s basic history 101. It isn’t in dispute except by recent apologists who want to make an appeaser into a saint.


717 posted on 04/12/2007 2:05:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Freshmen high school texts make the same claim. It’s basic history 101. It isn’t in dispute...

BS

718 posted on 04/12/2007 2:07:47 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Dominick
This Concordat was to secure the rights of Catholics to practice their faith.

At what price?

719 posted on 04/12/2007 2:09:22 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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