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Posted on 04/03/2007 2:32:00 AM PDT by NYer
ROME, APRIL 2, 2007 (Zenit.org).- Adolf Hitler's No. 1 enemy was the Vatican's secretary of state, Eugenio Pacelli, future Pope Pius XII, according to documents recently found in Europe.
In an article published last Thursday by La Repubblica, reporter Marco Ansaldo announced that he has a dossier on Pius XII that complements documentation found in the Vatican Archives.
According to the newly discovered documents, Pius XII was considered an enemy of the Third Reich. Memos and letters unearthed at a depot used by the Stasi, the East German secret police, show that Nazi spies within the Vatican were concerned at the Pope's efforts to help displaced Poles and Jews.
One document from the head of Berlin's police force tells Joachim von Ribbentrop, the Third Reich's foreign minister, that the Catholic Church was providing assistance to Jews "both in terms of people and financially."
Russia's motives
In a commentary on the new documents, Sister Margherita Marchione, author and expert on Pius XII, explains the campaign against the Pope was the work of the Soviets.
"Russia's plans were to control Europe after the war. The only outspoken obstacle to Russia's plan in Europe was the Catholic Church," Sister Marchione wrote.
"The first attacks claiming that the Church had endorsed silently the atrocities of the Nazis came from Communist Russia," she explained. "Soon to control Poland, and other vast areas in Eastern Europe, Russia saw the need to break the loyalty to the Pope of Catholic majorities in those countries.
"The plan was a simple one: convince everyone that the Pope supported the hated Nazis during the war and, therefore, neither he nor the Church could be trusted after the war. The destruction of the Church would leave the field wide open for Russian influence and control."
Right there in Matthew 16:17 and in heaven and his bones are in that ossuary on the Mount of Olives there in Jerusalem.
Your little anti-Catholic trolling team there has ignored plenty of requests for proof. Shall I now be expected to be at your beck and call?
LOL
Now what brings that topic up in this debate? I just scanned all 682 posts, and I can't find anyone who has said anything of the sort. Do you want that made part of the ongoing discussion?
I'm pinging a few of the more recent "anti-Catholic" posters to make sure I didn't miss something.
Cornwell is a practicing Catholic who actually went fairly easy on Pacelli. Read the book and find out for yourself.
It’s in the same category of delusional, empty hatred of Catholicism as the KGB/Hochhuth/Cornwell slander on display here.
Pot, kettle, etc.
This is ludicrous. By your side's own admission, Pacelli had read "Mein Kampf." If he knew what Hitler planned for the Jews, then this supposed temporary "elimination of the Catholic Church in the Reich" would have been a small price to pay to save so many lives.
Unless of course Pacelli thought Hitler was going to win.
You're lies never end.
Meant to ping you to 688.
Admission? LOL
When was it ever denied?
You're little superior dance isn't very forgiving, you know (I mean with your lucid hindsight and all).
The only truth in your posts are the quotes you pull from me.
If "things in the same category" makes something on-topic and fair game to bring up, I can think of a lot of "same category" things that we could discuss in this thread, re historical Papal behaviors and politics. You really don't want this thread to go down that path, do you?
All the reviews I've read date from September and October, 1999.
Our copy, like yours, identified the cover photo as 1927.
So where is this erroneous cover for some "other" First Edition that supposedly shows an incorrect date?
This thread has bulldozed that path and installed an eight-lane freeway.
FYI, the RCC hates this book so much that they’ve bought up the domain name “Hitler’s Pope.”
If you go to http://www.hitlerspope.com"; you arrive at a site that trashes Cornwell’s book and instead substitutes praise for “The myth of Hitler’s Pope.”
Too funny.
Listen carefully - I'll shout so you can hear it over the din.
THE BOOK DOES NOT SAY "Pacelli/Pius XII conspired with the Nazis to bring Hitler to power...".
If there are non-Catholics here claiming that deal with them rather than painting me with your tar brush.
If that is the case, why do you champion the book which has as its primary theme that Pacelli was Hitler's Pope?
In your own words; what did Cornwell mean by his choice of the title "Hitler's Pope"?
Then I suggest you cancel your E-ZPass, unless you're going to continue using it.
Ah, we're required to have one, eh? Much like Mein Kampf or the Little Red Book...
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