Posted on 03/25/2007 12:52:43 PM PDT by NYer
Everything could be done in style - witness H. L. Mencken, or - much earlier - Francois Rabelais, or Giovanni Boccaccio. And a high quality mockery is sufficienly valuable to be preserved and passed down in history, which is only enriched by it. Thus it is a standard to which one could honorably aspire.
That's different. That's not what I was talking about (although for me, the darker the confessional, the better).
And as an Atheist, why do you feel the need to make a "high-quality" mockery on Confession?
I understand, but there is some good in the article. Though it is way to positive about communal penance services, which are worthless unless tied to individual sacramental confessions.
Okey-dokey. I understand what you're saying now.
For the fun of it, of course. As that same Francois Rabelais once wrote [translation of the second order, as I do not read French] - "because to laugh is human"
Well, we have a penance service but around here we have a short service and then we line up for confession with a bunch of priests from other parishes and retired priests. We don't get group absolution nor do we confess our sins publicly. I have NO idea what they do in California!
To laugh at others, though, while something many humans do, is neither defining of humans nor one of out finer activities. Displays of contempt notoriously have an unsettling boomerang-like effect.
Whoever provided the quote you plagiarized probably thought the hour hands of clocks are motionless because he could not see them move. Some persistent habits take a long time to change. That doesn't mean people don't improve. It just means that those who would rather mock than help and who, like infants, prefer their gratification instant and out of a bottle may not exercise the patience to learn the truth of the matter.
Quix: Please note that this time, at the third post a self-described atheist got in before the Protestants with the express intention of mockery. Interesting, no?
We have that here in Advent and in Lent. I keep telling them they need express lanes: "10 Sins or Fewer" but do they listen to me? One of my buddies calls it a "Confessathon".
Agreed our town is having a Communal Penance Service with all the parishes in our town (3) next week in preparation of Easter Week. We have been encouraged to attend Confessions following the service
We're having one on Monday with 10 priests. Apparently the priests here love these services, because they all come in from their rather scattered parishes, do the short service and hear confessions for about an hour or so, and then go out to dinner!
Beside I just love my Confessor. I still remember my first confession with him. I converted 3 years ago, and had over 52 years to talk to him about. He was a very patient man.
I agree. However, the primary purpose of the Sacrament of Penance is to rid us of our mortal sins, and also our venial sins. A person in a state of mortal sin may not receive the Eucharist; wheras a person in a state of venial sin may. The key here is in identifying one's sins. Frequent confession can lead to scrupulosity. While I would NEVER suggest that one in a state of venial sins should shun the Sacrament, it is more important that the penitent confess his mortal sins. If these exceed two, then that individual should make an appointment for a private confession, out of deference to those who come to confess their venial sins.
K, what is the frequency in the Orthodox Church?
It was unexpected that he would leave when he did and so now we only have our Monsignor and the retired priest who does the Hispanic service.
In other words, we NEED extra priests for confession. Hope we get a new associate soon. We will probably have to wait until July, though.
Very funny!
Christ did not leave us orphans. On the contrary, He instructed the Apostles - "Whose sins you shall forgive are forgiven; whose sins you shall retain are retained."
There are no more beautiful words than to hear the priest say: "I absolve you of your sins, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen."
Lol! That's actually a good suggestion.
In a manner similar to that experienced by Miss Marple, our small parish offers two Reconciliation Services each year. It is intended to serve two purposes. The service itself is quite beautiful, filled with Maronite chants, readings, the Gospel and an examination of conscience. This is then followed by private Confession.
Since our parish is filled with saints, it is a challenge to get the adults to come. So, this year, Father has invited the children - all the children (regardless of their age) - to experience the 'reconciliation' portion of the service, in an effort to prepare them for the Sacrament when they are of age. IMHO, it's quite clever. The children LOVE coming to Church and this 'communal' Reconciliation Service introduces them to the actual sacrament. Father's goal is to get their parents to take it to the next level by demonstrating to their children how to confess their sins by entering the confessional.
You are perpetually hungover and your particular judgment will be a real bender.
"You are perpetually hungover" - Nope, for I've drunk it down. You wouldn't believe the bliss.
Can. 960 Individual and integral confession and absolution constitute the sole ordinary means by which a member of the faithful who is conscious of grave sin is reconciled with God and with the Church. Physical or moral impossibility alone excuses from such confession, in which case reconciliation may be attained by other means also.
Can. 961 §1 General absolution, without prior individual confession, cannot be given to a number of penitents together, unless:
1° danger of death threatens and there is not time for the priest or priests to hear the confessions of the individual penitents;
2° there exists a grave necessity, that is, given the number of penitents, there are not enough confessors available properly to hear the individual confessions within an appropriate time, so that without fault of their own the penitents are deprived of the sacramental grace or of holy communion for a lengthy period of time. A sufficient necessity is not, however, considered to exist when confessors cannot be available merely because of a great gathering of penitents, such as can occur on some major feastday or pilgrimage.
§2 It is for the diocesan Bishop to judge whether the conditions required in §1, n. 2 are present; mindful of the criteria agreed with the other members of the Episcopal Conference, he can determine the cases of such necessity.
Can. 962 §1 For a member of Christ's faithful to benefit validly from a sacramental absolution given to a number of people simultaneously, it is required not only that he or she be properly disposed, but be also at the same time personally resolved to confess in due time each of the grave sins which cannot for the moment be thus confessed.
§2 Christ's faithful are to be instructed about the requirements set out in §1, as far as possible even on the occasion of general absolution being received. An exhortation that each person should make an act of contrition is to precede a general absolution, even in the case of danger of death if there is time.
Can. 963 Without prejudice to the obligation mentioned in can. 989, a person whose grave sins are forgiven by a general absolution, is as soon as possible, when the opportunity occurs, to make an individual confession before receiving another general absolution, unless a just reason intervenes.
Can. 964 §1 The proper place for hearing sacramental confessions is a church or oratory.
§2 As far as the confessional is concerned, norms are to be issued by the Episcopal Conference, with the proviso however that confessionals, which the faithful who so wish may freely use, are located in an open place, and fitted with a fixed grille between the penitent and the confessor.
§3 Except for a just reason, confessions are not to be heard elsewhere than in a confessional.
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