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To: Eagle Eye
In the church of the Body of Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile. Paul established that the Gentile believers need not convert of Judaism, nor do the have to follow the customs of the Jews.

Agreed. But scripture plainly says that the new covenant is with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It says it twice, in the old testament and is repeated in the new testament:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, He says, "BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL EFFECT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH;
Heb 8:9 NOT LIKE THE COVENANT WHICH I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS ON THE DAY WHEN I TOOK THEM BY THE HAND TO LEAD THEM OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT; FOR THEY DID NOT CONTINUE IN MY COVENANT, AND I DID NOT CARE FOR THEM, SAYS THE LORD.
Heb 8:10 "FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS, AND I WILL WRITE THEM ON THEIR HEARTS. AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.

Old Testament:

Jer 31:31 "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,
Jer 31:32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD.
Jer 31:33 "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

So once again, the Lord, in the bible, says that the New Covenant is only going to be made with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.

So is scripture wrong? Is the new covenant NOT made with the house of Israel and the house of Judah?

So that is right, I said that the 10 commandments are not part of Christian doctrine. They were given to Moses and the children of Isreal, not to the Church of the Body.
Obeying the law for righteousness obligates one to follow the whole law.

The ten commandments are an essential part of Christian doctrine. The written commandments are the benchmark, the gauge, the judge, the schoolmaster. They are what tells us whether or not we are sinning. They are the objective measure of our sin. That's what Paul was explaining here:

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Paul explains further:

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

"Love", Godly love, is defined by the ten commandments. If one finds oneself violating the ten commandments in action, thought, or spirit, then that person is sinning, not exhibiting or practicing Godly love.

91 posted on 03/26/2007 5:49:34 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Why are you shouting?

You do realize, don't you, that capitals on the internet are interpreted as though you are shouting??

True.


95 posted on 03/26/2007 6:19:13 PM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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To: DouglasKC
The ten commandments are an essential part of Christian doctrine. The written commandments are the benchmark, the gauge, the judge, the schoolmaster. They are what tells us whether or not we are sinning. They are the objective measure of our sin.

Wow....not at all accurate!

The 10 commandments are nowhere anywhere in the NT or Christian doctrine.

That law was given to OT Isreal, people who did not have the capability to have ' agape' love. The 10 commandments are for fleshly minded man, not those that walk the walk of agape love. The laws are only rules for sense knowledge man who doesn't understand God's love and the working of holy spirit.

Agape love goes far beyond the law. The law is for sense knowledge man who doesn't know God in his heart.

Thus the 10 Commandments are not for Christians.

107 posted on 03/26/2007 7:04:53 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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