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To: rrc
excuse me, but just because you dont have a signed doc from the apostles stating the naming of sucessors doesnt mean it isnt legit...

It certainly does...If it's not 'God-breathed', your stuff is no more legitimate than the writings of Joe Smith or the Jehovah Witnesses...

You guys make stuff up and claim God privately told you so...And what's really amazing is there are people that believe you...

your diagreement with verifiable history, i.e. the very thread you are reading as well as the church fathers, is nothing more than your being in denial since it conflicts with your man-made christian church based on luther and his deformation of the church, 1500 plus years after clement et al.....

Wrong again...Luther didn't invent Christianity...It was already there when he stumbled upon some of it...

There is also verifiable history that shows a lot of your history is bunk...How many of your church father's records are forgeries by your church???

9 posted on 03/23/2007 8:57:47 PM PDT by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Iscool
You guys make stuff up and claim God privately told you so

Well, no, you see, that's the big difference between us and those other groups you mention.

We believe public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle. Since then, nobody is permitted to "make up" anything. God can't tell anybody anything that contradicts what he has already said. All we can do is hold fast to what the Apostles taught, and what the Church has always believed. Our understanding of that "deposit of faith" (a term that comes from St. Paul, BTW) can deepen, but it can't contradict what it previously knew.

Where you err is that you believe "what the Apostles taught and what the Church has always believed" is identical with your personal understanding of Scripture. That idea is something that was "made up" by Wycliffe and the Lollards in the 13th Century, not by the Apostles.

12 posted on 03/23/2007 9:38:46 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Iscool

**Luther didn't invent Christianity...It was already there when he stumbled upon some of it...**

Good grief, Luther was a Catholic priest before he dissented.


14 posted on 03/23/2007 9:53:27 PM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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