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To: Alex Murphy

Excellent post. Thanks.

One problem with "believer's baptism" is the ritualistic aspect -- kids are subjected to social, parental, and clerical pressure to perform a set of rituals -- walking the aisle, saying the sinner's prayer, filling out the six-point record form, and submitting to public immersion. It's easy to see how this cultural custom generates a substantial percentage of false conversions.


3 posted on 03/08/2007 10:59:07 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: TomSmedley
As one of those "Evangelical born again Christians", I do not know what 'walking the isle' is, or a 'six-point record form' is, public immersion yes because it is a public statement of faith, the sinners prayer well that usually refers to when you ask Jesus to be your personal Savior, do you mean it has to follow a certain guideline? Man, my church must really be primitive and Biblical.
5 posted on 03/08/2007 11:08:12 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: TomSmedley
One problem with "believer's baptism" is the ritualistic aspect -- kids are subjected to social, parental, and clerical pressure to perform a set of rituals -- walking the aisle, saying the sinner's prayer, filling out the six-point record form, and submitting to public immersion.

I can remember seeing young kids (<=10) giving testimony before baptism, about how awful their lives were before accepting Jesus. That had to be someone else talking. No way they'd have a grasp on that. No way at all.

13 posted on 03/08/2007 2:34:26 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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