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To: kosta50
I guess I need a positive articulation of the thesis of why all differences among humans must be a result of sin. I can see a sort of gnostic schema which would support that. But I don[t see it as necessary in the Judeao-Xtian schema. Adam and Eve and all their children would have the same color eyes? the same talents and gifts? It wouldn't be that this one was better at music and that one at design.

And in heaven the redeemed will all be entirely alike in capacity and gift? The heavenly chorus, or the human branch of it, is monophonic, not polyphonic?

Here we have a God who is so unlike anything else that He's not even ONE the way other things are One! I don't think that He is of such a kind that every perfect image of Him would be identical to every other perfect image. I think that thought lessens the concept of Him.

622 posted on 03/15/2007 9:42:20 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Save the cheerleader, who cares about the world for crying out loud!)
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I can see a sort of gnostic schema which would support that.

!!!!FINALLY!!!!

You help me put my finger on the thing that's been niggling at me about this in the foggy resources of my deeper mind somewhere.

It seems to me . . .

That the idea of an amorphous, unitary, homoginized, 1,000% transparent, 1,000% totally merged EXISTENCE in eternity is a satanic EASTERN RELIGION; EASTERN MYSTICISM NOTION from the pit of hell.

It is an EASTERN RELIGION NOTION THAT:

1. ALL IS ONE.
2. THERE ARE NO DISTINCTIONS.
3. THERE ARE NOT EVEN DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL.
4. DISTINCTIONS ARE ILLUSION.
5. ALL IS ILLUSION.
6. OOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE GOD OF THE BIBLE AND HIS CREATION AND CREATURES ARE ENTIRELY ANTETHETICAL TO; OPPOSITE TO THAT.

Thanks, much Dawg. I knew there was something significant niggling at me in that direction.

628 posted on 03/15/2007 10:02:17 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: Mad Dawg
I guess I need a positive articulation of the thesis of why all differences among humans must be a result of sin

It's the result of being focused on us, self-love, arrogance and pride. Otherwise we woulod consider everyone else as we would ocnsider ourselves; empathy and love for them. As it is we are incapable of loving each other as we love ourselves. And for the same reas we cannot love God with all ourheart and mind and soul.

648 posted on 03/15/2007 11:31:54 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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