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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | 02-06-07 | Mary Harwell Sayler

Posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:18 AM PST by Salvation

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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?

March 6, 2007

Question: What's the difference between a Catholic Bible and a Protestant one? Is our Old Testament the same as a Jewish Bible? If not, why?

Answer: The most noticeable differences occur in the number of books included and the order in which they have been arranged. Both the Jewish Bible and the Hebrew canon in a Protestant Bible (aka Old Testament) contain 39 books, whereas a Catholic Bible contains 46 books in the Old Testament. In addition, the Greek Orthodox, or Eastern Orthodox, Church accepts a few more books as canonized scripture.

To give you a quick overview of a complicated subject, here's what happened: Several hundred years before the birth of Christ, Babylonian conquerors forced the Jews to leave Jerusalem. Away from their Temple and, often, from their priests, the exiled people forgot how to read, write, and speak Hebrew. After a while, Jewish scholars wanted to make the Bible accessible again, so they translated Hebrew scriptures into the Greek language commonly spoken. Books of wisdom and histories about the period were added, too, eventually becoming so well known that Jesus and the earliest Christian writers were familiar with them. Like the original Hebrew scriptures, the Greek texts, which were known as the Septuagint, were not in a codex or book form as we're accustomed to now but were handwritten on leather or parchment scrolls and rolled up for ease in storage.

 Eventually, the Jewish exiles were allowed to return to Jerusalem where they renovated the Temple. Then, in A.D. 70, warring peoples almost completely destroyed the sacred structure, which has never been rebuilt. Without this central place of worship, the Jews began looking to the Bible as their focal point of faith, but to assure the purity of that faith, only Hebrew scriptures were allowed into the Jewish canon. By then, however, the earliest Christians spoke and read Greek, so they continued to use the Septuagint or Greek version of the Bible for many centuries. After the Reformation though, some Christians decided to accept translations into Latin then English only from the Hebrew texts that the Jewish Bible contained, so the seven additional books in the Greek translation became known as the Apocrypha, meaning "hidden." Since the books themselves were no secret, the word seemed ironic or, perhaps, prophetic because, in 1947, an Arab boy searching for a lost goat found, instead, the Dead Sea scrolls, hidden in a hillside cave.

Interestingly, the leather scrolls had been carefully wrapped in linen cloth, coated in pitch, and placed in airtight pottery jars about ten inches across and two feet high where, well-preserved, they remained for many centuries. Later, other caves in the same area yielded similar finds with hundreds of manuscripts no longer hidden. Indeed, the oldest copies of the Bible now known to exist are the Dead Sea scrolls of the Septuagint.

Because of this authentic find from antiquity, many publishers in the twentieth century added back the books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, First and Second Maccabees, as well as additions to Esther and Daniel. So now, when an edition of the Bible says "with Apocrypha" on the cover, the extra books from the Septuagint will usually be placed between the Old and New Testaments or at the end of the Bible. Catholic Bibles already contained those books, however, so you'll find them interwoven with other Old Testament books of history and wisdom writings. 

For the New Testament, it's a different story — and short. All of the books were written in Greek or Aramaic from the start. Although some debate occurred about which Gospels or Epistles should be included, all Christians eventually accepted all of the same 27 books in the same order. So, as long as you choose an edition that does not add explanatory notes opposed to a Catholic perspective, any reputable translation of the New Testament is fine.



TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Judaism; Mainline Protestant
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To: Alex Murphy
Your hard work has paid off!

Works got nothing to do with it. 8~)

281 posted on 03/10/2007 2:25:41 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; AlbionGirl; xzins; P-Marlowe; AlaninSA; Blogger

"the number of Protestant sects grew by twenty-five thousand percent, in just a scant five week period"

I've been trying to tell you narrow yokels that there is something to this Purpose Driven Church thing, but just because I'm a Connecticut Yankee from a blue state, you won't believe me. Must be my pre-trib obsession.


282 posted on 03/10/2007 2:27:33 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

Grrrrrrr


283 posted on 03/10/2007 2:32:20 PM PST by Blogger
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To: blue-duncan
The only problem with all this growth is that it calls attention to that age-old division amongst Protestants that always crops up during our denominational growth spurts:

Do we go out and buy more snakes, or do we just buy bigger snakes?

And do we need to baptise the new ones?

I suppose we should consider St. Patrick an anti-Protestant, for driving all the snakes out of Ireland.

284 posted on 03/10/2007 2:40:37 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Blogger

"Grrrrrrr"

Oh, come on, you know it works. Deep down you are just upset that you didn't think of it. I already know how Warren did it and you didn't. He got his training at Southwestern and you got yours at Southern.


285 posted on 03/10/2007 2:40:52 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

That is THE Southern Baptist Theological Seminary to you.


286 posted on 03/10/2007 2:46:25 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Alex Murphy
Yep, this was yute sunday at the chapel and instead of the usual tithes and offerings we had 'em bring their sacred pets. A moving service....especially away from the front.


287 posted on 03/10/2007 2:51:49 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Blogger

Well, if THE SOUTHERN had cleaned house over the inerrancy issue as soon as the humble Southerwestern did maybe the "ichabod" void would have been filled earlier and you would have gotten the inspiration rather than Warren.


288 posted on 03/10/2007 3:01:35 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

Well, I can't complain too much about THE Southern. Uncle Al did a pretty good job of cleaning house. Unfortunately, Warren has been a favorite of all the preacher boys visiting Lifeway stores for years.


289 posted on 03/10/2007 3:04:26 PM PST by Blogger
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To: blue-duncan
Some of the snakes used in our worship service are so large, they get their own pew...


290 posted on 03/10/2007 3:13:38 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy; blue-duncan
Some of our snakes are so big (headed) they are branching off into their own denominations.

291 posted on 03/10/2007 4:33:30 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; AlbionGirl; xzins; P-Marlowe; Blogger; ...

K and I just had a moving experience of watching a full performance of a bluegrass group called the Isaacs, a family of believing Jews. If you get a chance get their dvd "The Best of the Isaacs" or at least their cd. The mother's testimony of how her family escaped the Nazis and her coming to Christ will explain their bluegrass hymns.

For those of you in highbrow country, bluegrass is Scotch/Irish soul music, best listened to with "Old Turkey" or "Jim Beam".


292 posted on 03/10/2007 5:14:08 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan; Alex Murphy

I have a real protestant bible.

It says, "Real Protestant Bible" on the front cover. The Catholic bible is easy to spot, says: "Not a Real Protestant Bible."

:>)

They cut out the part about snakes and bluegrass.


293 posted on 03/10/2007 5:39:48 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
For the rest of you, it's worth noting that in the last week of January 2007, we achieved a dramatic 33% growth rate as Protestant denominations jumped from 30,000 to 40,000 denominations. And now, without even having finished the first quarter of 2007, we're told (thanks, Alan!) that our numbers have literally exploded into the millions, growing by an astronomical 2500%!

LOLOL!

And speaking of choice, I'm finnin' to go to two Services tomorrow, the first to an Anglican Church that holds its Service/Liturgy (whatever it's properly called) in the chapel of the Reformed Lutheran Church in downtown Rochester. The Anglican church was kicked out of some other church building due to some ecclesial disagreement, don't know all the gory details, but their website states Evicted, yet Moving Forward. As I begin my search for a Church to call home, I thought this very appropriate. Here's the website banner statement:

The Lord God Almighty has raised up a voice in the wilderness during the Days of Elijah periodically throughout history. In these days, as orthodox Christians are moved to raise up their voices in the wilderness, may we join our voices into one voice in the wilderness to proclaim the sovereignty of our Lord Jesus Christ! Once again... the Days of Elijah are upon us! May the Lord Jesus Christ be praised and adored... and every knee bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD!

Very nice, don't you think? Denominations, they can be so healthy, so vital, because it's not quite likely that Our Lord spoke of Unity without Truth. Unity without Truth, it's so Pilate like, spineless, impotent, not very useful, in other words.

The second Service/Liturgy (again, whatever it's properly called), will be the Lutheran one, in the same Church, in German. How's that for a League of Nations start? I'm quite excited. I'm hoping the Lutheran church prays the Gottesdienst. We'll see. I'm going to get dressed up too, heels and all, for my trek into the two denominations. You never get a second chance to make a good first impression. So, wish me well, my fine friends. And let me leave you with the following piece that touches upon the subject of denominations, along with a link. I recommend visiting the site. Some interesting stuff on and by Luther. Some interesting stuff on Luigi Desanctis. And, while I'm not sure I completely agree with this, it hits on some good points, I think.

What about these 25,000 denominations? I am not bothered by them. I know my blog visitors will be scandalized by what I just said because ... did not Jesus pray that "they" might be one in John 17? I agree he did.

These 25,000 denominations are claiming some absolute truth and they collide, well ... that is better than saying there is no truth, or saying we can not know truth or saying what is true for you may not be true for me so..... why do not we just sit down around a camp fire and sing "Kumbaya my Lord"? Or my RC friends might say, yes there is truth and the Pope says whatever it is, so why don't we just gather around that (please,... I say this respectfully and with no sarcasm)? So what should we do, should we go to the post-modern solution of relative truths?

It is interesting that when Jesus prayed for unity he did not leave out the notion of truth, in fact several times this word was mentioned.

7Sanctify them[b] in the truth; your word is truth. 18As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19And for their sake I consecrate myself,[c] that they also may be sanctified[d] in truth. Jesus says - Your [The Father's ] word is truth. Where is truth then? Jesus says that it is in God's word, so to know it, find out where God spoke and there we find truth and gather around that.

I contend that the only reliable place to look are the Scriptures (me: I contend the same thing. Got Sedes Doctrina? No? Your loss and certainly not my gain.) because Jesus gave authority to it, not the Church. It was better than that, it was the head of the Church who said that - Christ the Lord.

There is an empirical test to this. See if what Scripture says about your sin matches your experience, see too if you can by your own efforts live out the demands of God. My answer to the first is "yes", my answer to the second is "no" and the solution is not to try harder.

Lastly in the creeds we confess "we believe in one holy catholic (universal) apostolic church... we believe in the communion of the saints". This is an article of faith, that it is , it is already true now, that there is one church -- a body of believers (ie not hypocrites) who in repentance and faith cleave alone to the work of Christ for their sins.

I do not see this oneness by my eyes, that is why it is an article of faith the same way I have not seen Jesus died on the Cross for me, but I believe that story is true.

Want to end by asking that we remember the Lord's most comforting words:

Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.

And, Dr. E. When I spoke to you of Christ's suffering as it pertains to Him leaving this Life and His Apostles, I never gave it a thought that when He asked the Father to take the cup from him, if it be His Will, that what was causing Him so much anguish was perhaps less the fact that He had to face the unspeakable horror of the Crucifixtion, but more than that, He had to bear the Sins of the World. I guess my first intuition on this was wrong.

294 posted on 03/10/2007 5:41:15 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: blue-duncan
K and I just had a moving experience of watching a full performance of a bluegrass group called the Isaacs, a family of believing Jews. If you get a chance get their dvd "The Best of the Isaacs" or at least their cd. The mother's testimony of how her family escaped the Nazis and her coming to Christ will explain their bluegrass hymns.

Thanks. And [The Isaacs], what a great name!

295 posted on 03/10/2007 5:46:46 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: bobjam
Just about every image and icon I have seen of Jesus- particularly in Catholic and Orthodox churches- show Him with long hair. This seems to contradict I Corinthians 11:14.

Jesus had taken a Nazarite vow

Numbers 6 The Nazirite 1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'If a man or woman wants to make a special vow, a vow of separation to the LORD as a Nazirite, 3 he must abstain from wine and other fermented drink and must not drink vinegar made from wine or from other fermented drink. He must not drink grape juice or eat grapes or raisins. 4 As long as he is a Nazirite, he must not eat anything that comes from the grapevine, not even the seeds or skins. 5 " 'During the entire period of his vow of separation no razor may be used on his head. He must be holy until the period of his separation to the LORD is over; he must let the hair of his head grow long. 6 Throughout the period of his separation to the LORD he must not go near a dead body. 7 Even if his own father or mother or brother or sister dies, he must not make himself ceremonially unclean on account of them, because the symbol of his separation to God is on his head. 8 Throughout the period of his separation he is consecrated to the LORD. 9 " 'If someone dies suddenly in his presence, thus defiling the hair he has dedicated, he must shave his head on the day of his cleansing—the seventh day. 10 Then on the eighth day he must bring two doves or two young pigeons to the priest at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting. 11 The priest is to offer one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering to make atonement for him because he sinned by being in the presence of the dead body. That same day he is to consecrate his head. 12 He must dedicate himself to the LORD for the period of his separation and must bring a year-old male lamb as a guilt offering. The previous days do not count, because he became defiled during his separation. 13 " 'Now this is the law for the Nazirite when the period of his separation is over. He is to be brought to the entrance to the Tent of Meeting. 14 There he is to present his offerings to the LORD : a year-old male lamb without defect for a burnt offering, a year-old ewe lamb without defect for a sin offering, a ram without defect for a fellowship offering, [a] 15 together with their grain offerings and drink offerings, and a basket of bread made without yeast—cakes made of fine flour mixed with oil, and wafers spread with oil. 16 " 'The priest is to present them before the LORD and make the sin offering and the burnt offering. 17 He is to present the basket of unleavened bread and is to sacrifice the ram as a fellowship offering to the LORD, together with its grain offering and drink offering. 18 " 'Then at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting, the Nazirite must shave off the hair that he dedicated. He is to take the hair and put it in the fire that is under the sacrifice of the fellowship offering. 19 " 'After the Nazirite has shaved off the hair of his dedication, the priest is to place in his hands a boiled shoulder of the ram, and a cake and a wafer from the basket, both made without yeast. 20 The priest shall then wave them before the LORD as a wave offering; they are holy and belong to the priest, together with the breast that was waved and the thigh that was presented. After that, the Nazirite may drink wine. 21 " 'This is the law of the Nazirite who vows his offering to the LORD in accordance with his separation, in addition to whatever else he can afford. He must fulfill the vow he has made, according to the law of the Nazirite.' " The Priestly Blessing 22 The LORD said to Moses, 23 "Tell Aaron and his sons, 'This is how you are to bless the Israelites. Say to them: 24 " ' "The LORD bless you and keep you; 25 the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; 26 the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace." ' 27 "So they will put my name on the Israelites, and I will bless them."

296 posted on 03/10/2007 6:24:21 PM PST by Revelation 911
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To: blue-duncan

I'm not a blue-grass fan, but I'll listen to the Isaacs. They are very good.


297 posted on 03/10/2007 8:05:59 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Their acappella work is some of the finest I've heard. K can't stand the nasal bluegrass, but was completely enthralled with the Isaacs. She tolerated an Alison Krauss & Union Station concert, but it cost me afterward. I had to sit through an amateur Nutcracker ballet with music by boom box.
298 posted on 03/10/2007 8:32:26 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: kawaii

It's always the way you put things, kawaii. You may not mean it the way it sounds but it really ticketh me offeth. I do believe in salvation by CHRIST alone but you've always got to put down protestant beliefs and it's condescending and rude. Is that really the way you want to come across?


299 posted on 03/10/2007 8:41:40 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Quix

Yeah, I know. I have to repent a lot on FR.


300 posted on 03/10/2007 8:45:51 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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