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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | 02-06-07 | Mary Harwell Sayler

Posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:18 AM PST by Salvation

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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?

March 6, 2007

Question: What's the difference between a Catholic Bible and a Protestant one? Is our Old Testament the same as a Jewish Bible? If not, why?

Answer: The most noticeable differences occur in the number of books included and the order in which they have been arranged. Both the Jewish Bible and the Hebrew canon in a Protestant Bible (aka Old Testament) contain 39 books, whereas a Catholic Bible contains 46 books in the Old Testament. In addition, the Greek Orthodox, or Eastern Orthodox, Church accepts a few more books as canonized scripture.

To give you a quick overview of a complicated subject, here's what happened: Several hundred years before the birth of Christ, Babylonian conquerors forced the Jews to leave Jerusalem. Away from their Temple and, often, from their priests, the exiled people forgot how to read, write, and speak Hebrew. After a while, Jewish scholars wanted to make the Bible accessible again, so they translated Hebrew scriptures into the Greek language commonly spoken. Books of wisdom and histories about the period were added, too, eventually becoming so well known that Jesus and the earliest Christian writers were familiar with them. Like the original Hebrew scriptures, the Greek texts, which were known as the Septuagint, were not in a codex or book form as we're accustomed to now but were handwritten on leather or parchment scrolls and rolled up for ease in storage.

 Eventually, the Jewish exiles were allowed to return to Jerusalem where they renovated the Temple. Then, in A.D. 70, warring peoples almost completely destroyed the sacred structure, which has never been rebuilt. Without this central place of worship, the Jews began looking to the Bible as their focal point of faith, but to assure the purity of that faith, only Hebrew scriptures were allowed into the Jewish canon. By then, however, the earliest Christians spoke and read Greek, so they continued to use the Septuagint or Greek version of the Bible for many centuries. After the Reformation though, some Christians decided to accept translations into Latin then English only from the Hebrew texts that the Jewish Bible contained, so the seven additional books in the Greek translation became known as the Apocrypha, meaning "hidden." Since the books themselves were no secret, the word seemed ironic or, perhaps, prophetic because, in 1947, an Arab boy searching for a lost goat found, instead, the Dead Sea scrolls, hidden in a hillside cave.

Interestingly, the leather scrolls had been carefully wrapped in linen cloth, coated in pitch, and placed in airtight pottery jars about ten inches across and two feet high where, well-preserved, they remained for many centuries. Later, other caves in the same area yielded similar finds with hundreds of manuscripts no longer hidden. Indeed, the oldest copies of the Bible now known to exist are the Dead Sea scrolls of the Septuagint.

Because of this authentic find from antiquity, many publishers in the twentieth century added back the books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, First and Second Maccabees, as well as additions to Esther and Daniel. So now, when an edition of the Bible says "with Apocrypha" on the cover, the extra books from the Septuagint will usually be placed between the Old and New Testaments or at the end of the Bible. Catholic Bibles already contained those books, however, so you'll find them interwoven with other Old Testament books of history and wisdom writings. 

For the New Testament, it's a different story — and short. All of the books were written in Greek or Aramaic from the start. Although some debate occurred about which Gospels or Epistles should be included, all Christians eventually accepted all of the same 27 books in the same order. So, as long as you choose an edition that does not add explanatory notes opposed to a Catholic perspective, any reputable translation of the New Testament is fine.



TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Judaism; Mainline Protestant
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To: fortheDeclaration
Yes, and if you reject this 'second best' which God gave because of man's sin, then you are twice damned!

Thank you for your judgment. I will, however, defer to the real Judge.

let us give strict heed unto the things that are written

And those would be...? This whole thread is about man-made decisions what are and aren't supposed to be Scriptures.

221 posted on 03/09/2007 6:02:13 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Alex Murphy
Ours get read?

LOL!

222 posted on 03/09/2007 6:09:26 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: kosta50

ROCOR parishes 'strongly suggest' covering (as do most in the FSU from what i've seen)

the point however is that we draw our actions from the church protestants suggest they draw theirs soley from scripture

if that's the case then they should all be following it to the tee.


223 posted on 03/09/2007 6:43:51 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Quix

Quix I was just reading over some of the comments on this thread and WOW - you are on a roll.

I really love your following paragraph:

There is NO EXCUSE for NOT PUTTING GOD FIRST ABOVE DENOMINATION, TRADITIONS OF MEN, TRADITIONS OF SCRIPTURE, ORGANIZATION, STRUCTURE, GOVERNING COUNCILS AND MAGICSTERICALS; MOTHER, FATHER, SPOUSE, CHILDREN, DOGS, CATS AND GOLDFISH.


Thank you Quix - true words.


224 posted on 03/09/2007 7:07:18 AM PST by Ping-Pong
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To: blue-duncan
I was a member of Baptist churches and an Assembly of God Church until 1992. And those pastors would most definately pick a few verses to read from, taking maybe 10 minutes at the most, and then would spend 30-45 minutes telling you what they "thought" it meant.In the Baptist church, it usually revolved around hell fire,(not that I'm opposed to hearing about hell fire), and the Assembly of God revolved around those 10% tithes passages.

Now, as for your comment about the "10 minute readers digest homilies",we hear scriptures, i.e.,Old Testament Prophets, the Psalms, the New Testament Epistles, and the Gospels,every Sunday. You cannot say the about Protestant churches and you and I both know it.

225 posted on 03/09/2007 7:09:16 AM PST by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: ScubieNuc; jo kus
In my opinion, even though Jo and I don't see eye to eye on alot of Christian doctrine, I still consider him a Brother in Christ.

Very well done, by both of you. If only we could all learn from both of you, and disagree agreeably, without sinking so low as to call each others salvation into question, then this forum would truly be a benefit and blessing to all.

226 posted on 03/09/2007 7:17:01 AM PST by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: Lil Flower
If only we could all learn from both of you,

If you learn anything from me, that would be evidence of the Holy Spirit working through a broken vessel.

and disagree agreeably, without sinking so low as to call each others salvation into question, then this forum would truly be a benefit and blessing to all.

I think if you would have been able to read all the posts I have put up on the Religion board, you probably would rank me with the "salvation questioners" column. I do find benefit from questioning the basis for people's beliefs, because reasoned responses cause me to examine my own beliefs.

However, I certainly don't decide who is saved. The best I can do is post what the Bible says about salvation, then the rest is up to the work of the Holy Spirit.

That being said, thank you for your kind words.

Sincerely
227 posted on 03/09/2007 7:40:26 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: Lil Flower

"You cannot say the about Protestant churches and you and I both know it."

Your statement is overly broad. Most Evangelical churches read the scriptures, in context, and exposit the scriptures read, in context, as part of their worship services. In fact. for most Evangelical churches, the "breaking" of the word is the central part of the worship service that all other parts lead up to. That is the purpose and function of the offices and gifts of preaching and teaching that were given to the churches. The model for this is Ezra when he returned from exile reading the scriptures to the returning exiles and then giving the "sense" of it to the congregation.

In many of the Roman Catholic churches I have visited, the homily is just a short "add on" to the liturgy and usually just a comment on some current news item or something that struck the Priest's fancy during the week. Very little exegesis of the scripture reading for the day.


228 posted on 03/09/2007 8:13:28 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Quix

Great Post!


229 posted on 03/09/2007 8:29:19 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: kawaii
the point however is that we draw our actions from the church protestants suggest they draw theirs soley from scripture...if that's the case then they should all be following it to the tee.

I totally agree with you on that. However, I also fault our churches for not following the discipline imposed by a biblical commandment to the tee but either ignore it or 'strongly suggest' it.

230 posted on 03/09/2007 8:34:04 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Kolokotronis
When the Fathers were writing, there were no Baptists,...

I used to think that was true until I began looking at Scripture.

Luke 9:49-50 Now John answered and said, "Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us." But Jesus said to him, "Do not Forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side."

Then I began looking into the history of Christianity before it became a part of the state. I discovered that there have always been a wide range of sects that were never a part of, or left Roman domination. In a great many of these sects they held to the belief in "Believer's Baptism", separation of Church and State and the inerrancy of Scripture and that all doctrine must be measured by Scripture. These are all beliefs held by modern day Baptists.

231 posted on 03/09/2007 8:47:14 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: Quix

I thought you more than others would appreciate the comment.
Since you seem to take literally more than others.


232 posted on 03/09/2007 8:55:16 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: nanetteclaret
"Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle." 2 Thessalonians 2:5 KJV

My Bible is different:

2 Thes. 2:5 "Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?" (NKJV study Bible)

In this case Paul is reminding the church about previous teachings he had given them in writing.

Another warning about "Tradition" would be:

Col. 2:8 "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men,..."

I believe the most powerful condemnation of "Tradition" comes from our Saviour Jesus.

Mark 7:13 "making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do."

In this case Jesus was condemning the Pharisee's for their legalistic hair splitting and manipulation of God's law.

233 posted on 03/09/2007 9:12:42 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: kosta50

well i can't see kicking people out of liturgy for not following it..

there's a sign on the door that folks are expected to at my parish. and there's a box of shawls by the door for folks who didn't come prepared...

what more could they do save kicking folks out of liturgy?

i know they refuse people for communion if they haven't gone to confession also.


234 posted on 03/09/2007 9:16:07 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Ping-Pong
Thank you.

I think what gets forgotten is that during the Apostolic Era Christians were able to hear directly from individuals who were taught be Jesus himself. Once the Apostolic Era came to an end the only absolutely reliable teachings available to us were the written words of those Apostles, or those that were taught by them. Thereafter, oral "Tradition" was subject to the corruption of cultural pressure from each succeeding generation since no one was there who could directly refute the validity of the "Tradition".

235 posted on 03/09/2007 9:26:51 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights

Thanks for your kind words.


236 posted on 03/09/2007 9:34:44 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Ping-Pong

Thanks for your kind encouragement.


237 posted on 03/09/2007 9:35:19 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: kosta50

Pastor Alvin G Eden, Personal Communication c 1964, 1965.

I have no idea which commentary he likely got it from.

Maybe I'll call him and ask him.


238 posted on 03/09/2007 9:37:07 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: kosta50

Much appreciate your integrity on this.

There's dozens of issues--most petty, some maybe not so petty--which different congregations construe as critical in this direciton and others critical in an opposite direction.

We have no precise absolute idea what Christ would say on a list of things save Holy Spirit's speaking in His still small voice to our hearts, minds, spirits. Each of us in ALL congregations is accountable to God for how we respond to Holy Spirit.

And, He tends to emphasize different things with different INDIVIDUALS according to GOD'S PRIORITIES FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL'S SPIRITUAL GROWTH.

Pontificating trying to shoehorn everyone into a camper portapotty on every issue is nonsensical, imho.


239 posted on 03/09/2007 9:40:10 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: kosta50

The emphasis and assertion was that God only said write to Moses with the 2nd tablet or some such.

I demonstrated God said write many times.

I realize it has taken me the last half of my life to be able to more or less easily say

"You were right. I was wrong."

But it is pretty freeing to be in such a state as to be able to say that without folks having to get out a D-9 CAT and the asphalt ripper to pry it out of me.


240 posted on 03/09/2007 9:42:15 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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