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The DNA evidence from these ossuaries only shows that the remains found within the ones marked "Jesus" and "Mary" were not related. It does not show that the remains belonged to either Jesus or to Mary Magdalene. After all, we don't have any DNA samples from Christ. Therefore, this whole thing is nothing more than sheer speculation and another in a series of crass attempts to debunk Christian beliefs during Lent.
1 posted on 02/25/2007 10:33:12 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: steadfastconservative

Uh gee. And Yeshua (Jesus' real name translated Joshua today), Miriam (Mary's real name after Moses's sister), Joseph, Jonah, Judah, and Matthew were not at all common names in ancient Israel? Its enough to make me want to cancel my Satellite subscription. Wish we could choose to omit certain channels from our billing.


2 posted on 02/25/2007 10:37:18 AM PST by Blogger
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To: steadfastconservative

Indeed. To coin a phrase, this whole line of reasoning is a dumb as a box of bones.


3 posted on 02/25/2007 10:39:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: steadfastconservative

In the name of the Commissar, the Comrade and the Holy Proletariat... Amen.


4 posted on 02/25/2007 10:41:26 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think this was already posted on FR, but if it's a different article about the same story, I'm sure you'd like to keep your finger on the pulse.


5 posted on 02/25/2007 10:47:02 AM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: steadfastconservative
The DNA findings, alongside statistical conclusions

In other words "We can't prove it."


6 posted on 02/25/2007 10:51:11 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: steadfastconservative
New scientific evidence, including DNA analysis conducted at one of the world's foremost molecular genetic laboratories, as well as studies by leading scholars, suggests a 2,000-year-old Jerusalem tomb could have once held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth and his family.

This is simply false. There is nothing in the DNA analysis that could suggest this is the remains of Jesus. Any "scientist" who connects their name to such a demonstrably false claim should have their degree pulled.

7 posted on 02/25/2007 10:54:16 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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Previous posts of this story from various sources:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1790884/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1790818/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1790608/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1790579/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1790456/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1789966/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789769/posts


8 posted on 02/25/2007 11:23:13 AM PST by GoLightly
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My first thought on reading this was that it "supports" Islamic theology while attempting to destroy Christianity. I don't understand the DNA "excitement" other than that just the mention of DNA somehow sanctifies a conclusion. Junk science at its worst.


9 posted on 02/25/2007 11:24:46 AM PST by JimSEA
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The article is plus de crap.
10 posted on 02/25/2007 12:46:03 PM PST by Maeve (The Church is not a mythical association of individuals opining on Truth.)
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A son named Jonah? Now that's a whale of a tale!


11 posted on 02/25/2007 12:49:11 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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Good grief, here we go again with this gnostic stuff, during another Lent.


13 posted on 02/25/2007 2:48:49 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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Did any of you read the entire article?

Any comment about the statistical analysis of name frequency? Can you argue with the analysis that the chances are 600:1 that this is it?
I'd think Christians would be excited about this find?


14 posted on 02/25/2007 3:09:51 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Now accepting tagline donations.)
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No amount of evidence that Jesus was a mere human, no matter how great or how credible, would shake the faith of devoted believers. However, this new information might serve to dissuade potential new converts, although "born again" experiences rarely occur for intellectual reasons, I've observed. If people want to believe something badly enough, they're going to believe it, no matter what. Evolution, for instance, didn't much dent Christianity, even though it's a widely accepted scientific theory which directly contradicts the Bible.


17 posted on 02/25/2007 4:09:05 PM PST by BearArms (Arm yourself because no one else here will save you)
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20 posted on 02/25/2007 6:39:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I was kind of wondering what DNA evidence?? Did they randomly poll people and ask if they were descended from Christ and if the said yes get permission for a DNA sample?

Consider this. The tomb of Jesus was very well guarded.
How did someone get the bones and hide them away? Did the Roman guards even knowing the penalty for this, conspire with Jesus' followers to remove the bones from the tomb?
Did the Jewish and Roman authorities who had much at stake in proving that Jesus was just another sect leader decide not to expose this theft? If the ressurection never happened what harm would there have been in Jesus' followers simply saying He was a wise teacher meant to show how to live in perfect accord with God's word? Would that view not have lead to a pilgrimages to the tomb of this great man?

The bones of Christ are not here. The resurrection is True. From that Truth the apostles were able to take hope and spread the faith. Defeated, demoralized,scattered, it was their witnessing of the Risen Christ that breathed new life into them. No mere vision or expression of their desire that He was still with them. They really saw, heard, touched the Savior.

So these liars can mutter their foolishness quite frankly they are farting in the wind. Making a big stink that soon gets blown away.


21 posted on 02/25/2007 7:05:58 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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I think we should just give up on traditional science and let hollywood do it all for us: They seem to be better at archeology than the professionals, better at climatology than all these pretenders running around with their uncountable sheepskins, better at stem cell research than all those slow poke researchers trying to make breakthroughs the old fashioned way.

Yep, I'm mightily impressed that these high school dropouts found Jesus' tomb on a weekend lark! I mean, archeologists have only been searching for Jesus' tomb for a couple of hundred years and here Cameron flits off to the Middle East and uncovers it between brunch and dinner. I mean, it's brilliant! These guys are geniuses!!!

Let's fire all our old scientists; hollywood's got us covered! They could probably figure out how to build a fusion reactor AND figure out whether or not we should actually build one by sunrise tomorrow if they really put their minds to it.

22 posted on 02/25/2007 7:09:08 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Were Joseph and Mary buried in Jerusalem? Didn't they live in Nazareth? So the box has the name Mary Magdelene on it or just Mary? Whatever, I think this is a fraud. I don't believe anything the media says about religion, particularly Christianity.


23 posted on 02/25/2007 8:14:54 PM PST by virgil
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Wow!!! DNA evidence shows that people buried in a family tomb were related!!! AND one of them wasn't, so she may have been the wife of a family member!!! I think these guys should be required to debate the libs who claim Jesus never existed. Why don't the leftie loons ever have to argue with each other?


36 posted on 02/26/2007 5:38:09 AM PST by cdcdawg
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It didn't say Jesus. The tomb had air shocks and it said DeJesus.


46 posted on 02/26/2007 9:37:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is time to stop the left at the wall.)
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It's just before Easter. The Duh Vinci Code garbage failed. The left has something new to broadcast.
Every little leftist will hear about this and do his or her part. They will get it on TV, radio, newspapers. There is already a book. Oprah will talk about it.
They will do everything that they can to push this idea, just because they want to destroy Christianity.


51 posted on 02/26/2007 10:58:37 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (The Leftist Marxist-Islamist Alliance: joining forces to destroy Christianity and Judaism)
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