There ya go.
And you misquote the Bible...again!
Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Not only do you misquote it, you make false claims and assertions about me. I never said the Jews can't understand Hebrew, I said that Jews didn't translate the KJV and then showed you who was on the committees and challenged you to show me the Jews on those committees.
You didn't because you couldn't.
You're not very careful in the small things, like offering a correct Bible quote (and you did use quotation marks!) so I'm also sure you won't properly handle larger things like proper interpretation techniques.
Heck, you're haveing problems understanding and comprehending English, so what makes anyone here think you can deal with any other languages?
The translation of "let us" is not supported by the Hebrew text.
Sorry no can do. He's a dreamer of dreams and giveth me a sign and a wonder. I'll have to heed the warning of Moses. But thanx for the suggestion. :-)
That's too easy! LOL...
The religious leaders of Jesus time had perverted the religion that God gave them with all kinds of man made traditions and twisted interpretations.
(Nothing has changed, the same is true today)
They claimed to Jesus that they were of their father Abraham and following his rules and laws.
Jesus pointed out that if they really were of Abraham they would celebrate him instead of revile him. Jesus then pointed out that they were in reality of the devil instead of God.
He tells then that the laws of Abraham were the ways, but that now, in this day and age, he, Jesus is the new way.
(Don't forget that the Greek texts had no capital letters and no puntuation, so all that is man made and prone to error. Actually I'm sure I'm infomorming you of this for the first time! lol...)
Anyway, Jesus tells them that before (in time past) Abriaham was (but today) I am.
Again, Abraham was the way to redemtion, but now I am.
If you think that Jesus was simply trying to one-up them on seniority by declaring that he was here before Abraham, not only does that not make any sense, it doesn't fit with the context of the discussion.
If you are trying to say that because Jesus uttered the words "I am" that makes him God because Jehova said "I am that I am"
Exd 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
There is no "to be" verb in Hebrew. (That also comes to play in Genesis 1:1,2) In Exodus, God was telling Moses that he (God) would become what he would become, that he could be whatever Moses needed him to be. This falls right in line with the 'Redemptive' namde of God ie, Jehova Repha, Jehova Shabat, Jehova Tsidkenu, etc. It is the same God with different names that describe his relationship to his people.
The baalim was a counterfeit of this and had a puriality of aspects to it but was not ever considered a single entity. This is one of the reasons that the scripture emphsizes that God is ONE GOD and that GOD is ONE, not two, not three.
There ya go.
Now to you...
Jhn 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
Ok, here Jesus says that he is the son of man. It says in the book of Numbers that God is not the son of man.
If God is not the son of man and Jesus is the son of man, then Jesus is not God.
Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Jesus tells them that he comes FROM God, not that he is God. Jesus clearly differentiates himself from God. Sorry, you won't find "God the Son" anywhere in the Bible. Using that term is unBiblical. God sent Jesus, not Jesus sent himself or God sent himself.
Jhn 8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
Again, clearly differentiating Jesus from God. Jesus knew that he was the son of God; God knew that Jesus was his son, I believe that Jesus is the son of God, why do you believe that he is God?
Jhn 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.
There ya go.