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To: Pyro7480
that once your accept Jesus as your Saviour, your sins past, present, and future are "covered." It's as if one's conduct, whether good or wicked, doesn't matter, as long as you accept Jesus as your Saviour.

The sins of His sheep were paid for by the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8). Justified once for all time by the sacrifice of Christ on the cross. There are so many Bible verses stating this it is baffling how so many people miss it.

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:...." -- Romans 3;20,28

[we]"...are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood... He did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus." -- Romans 3:25,26

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin." -- Romans 3:20

"He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification." -- Romans 4:25

"Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men." -- Romans 5:18

"... through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses." -- Acts 13:38

"those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified." -- Romans 8:30

"know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified." -- Galatians 2:16

"You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace." -- Galatians 5:4

Our sanctification is temporal. We grow in faith in and through time, by the work of the Holy Spirit within us. Our good works earn us nothing; they are evidence of our salvation, not payment for it because mercy cannot be earned.

If one truly believes in Jesus Christ, they can be assured the Holy Spirit is working to keep them on the straight and narrow path. All stray, but by the grace of God, we stray less and less each day. His mercy actually makes us want to obey and be conformed to His will until the day we die and we are glorified with Him.

Pick up the Bible and read it. It's all there.

31 posted on 01/29/2007 10:00:14 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Pyro7480
If one truly believes in Jesus Christ

Now that's a rather ambiguous phrase.

45 posted on 01/29/2007 10:42:54 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"Pick up the Bible and read it. It's all there."

All Paul, all the time.
No Jesus in your list.

Read Paul in light of, and limited by Jesus.

The way you are using those passages from Paul, you are overriding Jesus (and James) by Paul.

Pick up YOUR Bible and read the Gospels.
Read all of those DO's and DON'Ts of Jesus.
Are we to presume that he meant "For the next few weeks. And then, after that, I'll be dead and you don't have to worry about all of these moral rules and charitable acts I've been harping on for two years, because that won't REALLY matter then, all y'all hafta do is BELIEVE!"
Not what Jesus said.
Can't be what Paul meant, either, in light of what Jesus said.

We have a Bible conflict here.
Paul really does seem to be saying precisely your doctrine.
Jesus is saying precisely my doctrine.
So, who do we follow, Saul of Tarsus, or the Son of God, hmmmmm....think, think, think...


189 posted on 01/29/2007 1:49:06 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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