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The Early Church Fathers on Apostolic Succession - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
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Posted on 01/28/2007 2:10:32 PM PST by NYer

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To: Kolokotronis
It was later translated back into Latin, but the Latin is terrible so the Greek version is usually considered authoritative as the Latin original is lost.

My high-school French teacher had an exercise whereby we would all write something in English, hand it off to a second student to translate to French, then to a third student for translation back to English. Then we'd all discuss what happened ... the results were often interesting.

21 posted on 01/29/2007 6:31:31 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sneakers

bttt (again)


22 posted on 01/29/2007 9:55:56 AM PST by sneakers
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Klondike

"Nope. I think it's both the translation and the clarity of his thought."

Agreed, though I think it may actually be a bit more the modern translation. I can tell you though that his clarity is eveident in the original.

I would point put that as with all the Fathers, one has to be careful "proof texting" them. The Fathers say a lot of things and not all of what they say are within the consensus patrum. Consequently, a given remark might be just plain wrong either factually or theologically. For example, +John Chrysostomos opined that the Theotokos sinned at the Wedding Feast at Canna and here we see +Irenaeos stating that the Church of Rome was the most ancient of the churches when one assumes, perhaps incorrectly, that he knew that many churches in the Middle East, Jerusalem and Antioch spring almost immediately to mind, were older.


23 posted on 01/29/2007 3:43:40 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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Interesting how these little things happen...reminds us that even the greatest and most golden tongued saints and teachers are not perfect...And if they are not, then who are we to think we are so perfect? All these lovely little lessons in "I am God, and you are not," God gives us. The wise pay attention....

Not as wise, myself, as I often wish I were!


24 posted on 01/29/2007 4:20:20 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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Ping!


25 posted on 06/21/2017 6:17:15 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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BTTT!


26 posted on 06/21/2017 9:09:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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