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To: Mrs. Don-o
Jer 4:1 "If you will return, O Israel," declares the LORD, "Then you should return to Me. And if you will put away your detested things from My presence, And will not waver,
Jer 4:2 And you will swear, 'As the LORD lives,' In truth, in justice and in righteousness; Then the nations will bless themselves in Him, And in Him they will glory."
Jer 4:3 For thus says the LORD to the men of Judah and to Jerusalem, "Break up your fallow ground, And do not sow among thorns.
Jer 4:4 "Circumcise yourselves to the LORD And remove the foreskins of your heart, Men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem, Or else My wrath will go forth like fire And burn with none to quench it, Because of the evil of your deeds."

Eze 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

We have the advantage of God's Law revealed explicitly to us: we have our shepherds who guide us in knowledge and understanding. That's why we refer to the obligation of conscience to think with the mind of the Church.

What do you do when the shepherds are themselves sexually devient and profaners of the Law of God?

10 posted on 01/28/2007 10:11:02 AM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: kerryusama04
The Church is Blessed and Holy.

Unfortunately, not so among some of their members. A very tiny amount.

11 posted on 01/28/2007 10:29:46 AM PST by mickie (God Bless our Troops)
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To: kerryusama04
"What do you do when the shepherds are themselves sexually devient and profaners of the Law of God?"

I've never, to my knowledge, had a pastor who was sexually deviant or a profaner of the Law of God. It would be a most painful situation.

If he were (say) a criminal abuser, you'd be better advised to go to the police before you went to the bishop.

If he were doing something not covered by secular criminal law, like teaching heresy, you'd have to do like the Lord says: (Matthew 18:15-17) "... go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector."

14 posted on 01/28/2007 11:00:42 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Do not accept a "truth" that comes without love, or a "love" that comes without truth. Edith Stein)
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