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The Early Church Fathers
Stay Catholic ^ | Sebastian R. Fama

Posted on 01/27/2007 6:12:35 AM PST by NYer

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To: xzins

Don't even get me started on that one Chappy!

At least they aren't calling the Muslims Protestant.


101 posted on 01/27/2007 11:42:54 AM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: xzins

"They never were sure what to do with the Orthodox."

LOL! That figures! Who does? My Dad's two favorite priests were both chaplains; one Latin, a rear admiral, the other Orthodox and a four striper; both Navy.


102 posted on 01/27/2007 11:58:48 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Gamecock; Kolokotronis; Mad Dawg

I've seen so-called "Mormon Protestants," "7th Day Adventist Protestants," "Church of Scientology Protestants," etc., etc.

It's enough to make a Christian gag.


103 posted on 01/27/2007 12:01:50 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; pachomius73

Meant to add that our fellow Freeper pachomius73 is now at the GOA seminary at Brookline, Ma. Went there after his return from a tour in Iraq. He has re-upped and when he is ordained in three years, he will be an Orthodox chaplain in the Army National Guard.


104 posted on 01/27/2007 12:02:40 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; pachomius73

Congrats, pachomius73.

If you're not already a Chaplain Candidate, become one. You get to train and get retirement points.


105 posted on 01/27/2007 12:04:24 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Kolokotronis; Alex Murphy
Nevertheless, reading the mind of another poster is "making it personal."

Discuss the issues, but do NOT make it personal.

106 posted on 01/27/2007 12:10:26 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: xzins; pachomius73

"Congrats, pachomius73.

If you're not already a Chaplain Candidate, become one. You get to train and get retirement points."

Back at the parish we are VERY, VERY PROUD of him, sinfully so, I'm afraid! :) (We miss him and his wife and kids too, the oldest of whom is my goddaughter!)


107 posted on 01/27/2007 12:11:52 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: xzins

While in ROTC I was in the Simultaneous Membership Program. Basically it put non-scholarship cadets into the Guard or Reserve, (I missed the graduation requirement age by 6 months, came in to late) and gave us E5 pay, drill time, and GI bill money.

The one thing it didn't do was count towards was pay and retirement. Anyway, back in 94(?) I saw an Army Times headline that read: Some Officers Get Pay Raise." That caught my eye and as I read the article I saw that the SMP grads would have their time count for pay.

Instant pay raise!


108 posted on 01/27/2007 12:16:10 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Kolokotronis

We need good Chaplains.

When will he graduate? Hopefully before I retire. (No idea when that will be)


109 posted on 01/27/2007 12:17:35 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock

That wasn't a Catholic nun.


It was a protestant pimp nun.


110 posted on 01/27/2007 12:24:03 PM PST by clockwise
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To: Gamecock

"We need good Chaplains.

When will he graduate? Hopefully before I retire. (No idea when that will be)"

2010, I believe. he got back from Iraq last spring and entered the seminary last August. He had doubts about re-upping, but some of us old bulls, a couple of young priests and a Metropolitan got to him!

He'll make a wonderful chaplain. Because he spent time in a Protestant theological school before becoming Orthodox, he has an excellent grasp of scripture (we call him our walking concordance) and a better understanding of the American mindset than many born Orthodox priests, in my opinion.


111 posted on 01/27/2007 12:28:10 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Gamecock
Are you calling the Roman Catholic Church a denomination???

For the sake of this discussion, sure. I am still waiting for an answer.

112 posted on 01/27/2007 12:29:46 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: Gamecock
Why are they, children of Rome, doing that?

The question really should be, why are they, children of God, doing that and why are they enabled by other children of God?

113 posted on 01/27/2007 12:33:51 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: mockingbyrd

I thought I did.


114 posted on 01/27/2007 12:34:02 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Alex Murphy
I have no problem reading and learning about the Church Fathers. It's their great-great-grandchildren that give me severe problems.

As an Evangelical Protestant, I have no problem learning from their great-great-grandchildren, such as Thomas Aquinas, G.K. Chesterton, and so forth. I'm also looking forward to reading B16's upcoming book.

Make no mistake: I have severe disagreements with Catholicism, and I am aware of them when I read them. But those disagreements are not where the battle of today is. The battle is not amongst those who have good-faith differences about the authority of the Church, the Communion of the Saints, the Sacraments, and so forth. No, the real battle today is against secular post-modernists who want to break people of their faith, against a world that wants to distract us with its baubles, and against an errant heart that wants to buy into the lies of the world so I can do what I know I should hate.

My enemies are not other Christians. It's the world, the flesh and the devil.

115 posted on 01/27/2007 12:35:10 PM PST by jude24
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To: mockingbyrd

Who is enabling them?

I've already explained what's going on here.

Where are their priests?


116 posted on 01/27/2007 12:35:17 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock
I'm still waiting for you to answer this question.... So do you agree, that doctors should prescribe abortaficiants, at least for the purpose of acting as abortaficiants?
117 posted on 01/27/2007 12:35:55 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: jude24

The problem is not what you listed. When Trent anathematized Sola Fide we parted ways.


118 posted on 01/27/2007 12:37:33 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: mockingbyrd

Oh, that part.
















No


119 posted on 01/27/2007 12:38:22 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock

I talking big picture here, not your individual situation, which you have already clarified.


120 posted on 01/27/2007 12:38:57 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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